More Stanage ‘overnighting’ problems

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 mrphilipoldham 04 May 2023

Not me, but spotted on Twitter.. things getting quite serious! 
https://twitter.com/northleesbill/status/1654069931938283520?s=46&t=9Zm...

 ebdon 04 May 2023
In reply to mrphilipoldham:

Use of dry stone wall to jack up the car, real classy vandalism there...

 FactorXXX 04 May 2023
In reply to mrphilipoldham:

Quite surprised that the overnighters didn't notice that their wheels were being stolen if they were asleep inside the car at the time.
Unless they were too drunk to notice...

 mondite 04 May 2023
In reply to FactorXXX:

> Unless they were too drunk to notice...

Which leads us onto did the cops nick them when they phoned it in and were clearly still over the limit.

 FactorXXX 04 May 2023
In reply to mondite:

> Which leads us onto did the cops nick them when they phoned it in and were clearly still over the limit.

and thus the 'drunk in charge of a motor vehicle' debate can be re-started...  

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 mondite 04 May 2023
In reply to FactorXXX:

> and thus the 'drunk in charge of a motor vehicle' debate can be re-started...  

With the added bonus of can you drive on the brake discs alone.

 Darkinbad 04 May 2023
In reply to FactorXXX:

Well I think removing the wheels trumps the old hiding the keys trick.

 chris_r 04 May 2023
In reply to FactorXXX:

> Quite surprised that the overnighters didn't notice that their wheels were being stolen if they were asleep inside the car at the time

I'm guessing the owners got benighted trying to multipitch Verandah Buttress. Happens to the best of us. 

 Offwidth 05 May 2023
In reply to chris_r:

You are right... trying to do this line by different methods resulted in my biggest total climbing time for any route on Stanage. I failed to work out the 4c method after many hours of effort and had to be shown.

 Wainers44 05 May 2023
In reply to mrphilipoldham:

> Not me, but spotted on Twitter.. things getting quite serious! https://twitter.com/northleesbill/status/1654069931938283520?s=46&t=9Zm...

Natonal Park Authority finally getting tough on overnighting?

 agarnham 05 May 2023
In reply to mrphilipoldham:

The car was there Monday; with an note about being broken down and collecting "asap"

Assume someone has taken advantage, the wheels were extremely low profile so might be worth a few quid. 

 Ridge 05 May 2023
In reply to agarnham:

> ….the wheels were extremely low profile so might be worth a few quid. 

How much did you get for them?

 Rob Parsons 05 May 2023
In reply to agarnham:

> The car was there Monday; with an note about being broken down and collecting "asap"

If that's the true situation, then the outcome is shit, and nothing to make light of. There are some bastards around.

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 Brass Nipples 05 May 2023
In reply to agarnham:

> Assume someone has taken advantage, the wheels were extremely low profile so might be worth a few quid. 

Flat tyres makes them low profile.

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 JoshOvki 05 May 2023
In reply to Rob Parsons:

Anything else makes them fair game?

Could also simply have been out for a walk over night, practicing night nav, doing some astronomy etc.

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 Rob Parsons 05 May 2023
In reply to JoshOvki:

> Anything else makes them fair game?

No. And I didn't intend to imply that.

 JoshOvki 05 May 2023
In reply to Rob Parsons:

Ah sorry if I misinterpreted it

> If that's the true situation, then the outcome is shit

Just sounds like they could have deserved it if they were not broken down 

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 Mike-W-99 05 May 2023
In reply to mrphilipoldham:

Looks like maybe German plates? It’s definitely a left hand drive

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 Andy Hardy 05 May 2023
In reply to mrphilipoldham:

One of the big problems with Stanage is it's proximity to that massive hive of villainy, Sheffield.

<ducks>

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 Rob Parsons 05 May 2023
In reply to Mike-W-99:

> Looks like maybe German plates? It’s definitely a left hand drive

Yes, I didn't notice that in the photo.

Nice welcome to Britain for the people visiting. Makes me ashamed to live here.

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 Babika 05 May 2023

In reply to Alex1993:

Agreed, but sadly its an extra attraction for villainy worldwide.

I've had cars broken into 3x while climbing at French crags with local plates left untouched. 

 Lankyman 05 May 2023

In reply to Alex1993:

> Such a shame that someone would do this to people visiting the UK.

Do you think vandalism should be kept in house? Are you a real person?

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 Ryan23 05 May 2023
In reply to Lankyman:

Just because someone says it's a shame for something bad to happen to a particular group of people, does not mean they condone it happening to everyone else....

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 Lankyman 05 May 2023
In reply to Ryan23:

I think you've missed the point, Ryan ....

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 PaulJepson 05 May 2023
In reply to agarnham:

At what point are wheels lost and at what point are they abandoned? Crag swag? I haven't seen anything crop up in lost and found yet. 

 magma 05 May 2023
In reply to Rob Parsons:

the iron cross symbol on the car could be significant?

wiki says it can be associated with extreme sports and heavy metal, but not the first thing that springs to mind..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Cross#Biker_and_heavy_metal_subcultures

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 Ridge 05 May 2023
In reply to magma:

> the iron cross symbol on the car could be significant?

> wiki says it can be associated with extreme sports and heavy metal, but not the first thing that springs to mind..

Antifa fighting fascism by nicking alloys? Bit of a stretch on the victim blaming front.

 Arms Cliff 05 May 2023
In reply to magma:

Cross Patée are not limited to use by Nazis! 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_pattée

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 dunc56 05 May 2023
In reply to mrphilipoldham:

BBS split rims go a treat on eBay.

 henwardian 05 May 2023
In reply to Andy Hardy:

> One of the big problems with Stanage is it's proximity to that wretched hive of scum and villainy, Sheffield.

> <ducks>

Fixed it for you

Also, if we are going to nit-pick, you were a day late :P

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 nastyned 05 May 2023
In reply to magma:

Good spot, that's my sympathy gone. 

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 magma 06 May 2023
In reply to Arms Cliff:

> Cross Patée are not limited to use by Nazis! 

thanks- rather confusing, and no modern usage for Germany. maybe it's just a nice shape? think i saw a similar black wagon with cross at a stone circle once. reminds me of my dad telling me of the alternative meaning when i got an AC/DC belt

maybe we should set up a crowdfund for unfortunate tourists?

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 daWalt 06 May 2023
In reply to magma:

it very much is in modern use, it's used across all Germany's armed forces as their basic identification mark. it's painted on the side of almost every modern military vehicle. (t.b.h. I don't think this vehicle is military, maybe the owner is - at least they're not rocking fake bullet-hole stickers alongside.)

it's not to be confused with the vaguely similar "balkenkreuz". given that it's a criminal offense to display nazi symbols in germany, you don't see many cars driving around with that sort of stuff wapped all over the side-panels.

 magma 09 May 2023
In reply to daWalt:

and there's the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cossack_cross rising in popularity?

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 EdS 10 May 2023
In reply to Arms Cliff:

It's used by Independent Trucks - skateboard and wheel company for decades

 gethin_allen 10 May 2023
In reply to mrphilipoldham:

I was wondering if it was broken down but then abandoned once they worked out the recovery and repair cost vs the vehicle cost. And they decided to strip anything valuable to minimise losses.

Although it's an Audi it looks like an old one and probably not a high value one because owners of high value cars don't tend to cover them in iron cross stickers. It's a bit like the BMWs you see youngsters razzing around in which look ok and have the kudos of a BMW but in reality are 20 years old and carrying 200k miles. 

 john arran 10 May 2023
In reply to gethin_allen:

'the kudos of a BMW'

That would be funny were it not tragic.

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 gethin_allen 10 May 2023
In reply to john arran:

> 'the kudos of a BMW'

> That would be funny were it not tragic.

Among a bunch of 18-20 year olds where the probable alternative is a fiesta or a corsa they probably stand out to people who they care to impress and don't know better.

Obviously the fiesta and corsa drivers have the better deal when something breaks or wears out and it turns out that something as simple as a set of brake pads cost them a weeks wages.

 PaulJepson 10 May 2023
In reply to gethin_allen:

Anyone who thinks a car that is literally called 'party' is not cool needs to take a long hard look in the mirror. 

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 montyjohn 10 May 2023
In reply to mrphilipoldham:

I'm leaning towards it being abandoned.

I get the impression that wheels being nicked is pretty rare these days.

Couple that rarity with it being a foreign car, the likeliness of it being abandoned is that much higher. Recovering a broken car abroad is expensive and cutting you losses makes more sense.


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