Rockfax Description
From the chock move right onto the arete, swing round the corner (4b, but harder for the short who will have to dangle), then teeter out right and finish up the well-positioned slab. Nice. © Rockfax
FA. David Penlington 1951.
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MJS | 10 Jul |
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βeta: Ungradeable first moves, but fun. Amazing afterwards, that traverse is a beauty at that amenable grade. Try double ropes. | βeta? | |
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βeta: Ungradeable first moves, but fun. Amazing afterwards, that traverse is a beauty at that amenable grade. Try double ropes. |
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Kryank | 19 Aug, 2021 |
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βeta: That start is a chicken winging squirm, jam fest, I struggled my way up to the chockstone, then clung on to it for all I was worth. Thought this would be an easy warm up lead for the other 2 classic rock ticks at Birchen, but I honestly though it was harder. | βeta? | |
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βeta: That start is a chicken winging squirm, jam fest, I struggled my way up to the chockstone, then clung on to it for all I was worth. Thought this would be an easy warm up lead for the other 2 classic rock ticks at Birchen, but I honestly though it was harder. |
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BeckettAnna | 14 Jul, 2020 |
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βeta: With some assistance on the start | βeta? | |
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βeta: With some assistance on the start |
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Ratfeeder | 13 Sep, 2019 |
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βeta: Foot-jam and squirm up to reach top of chockstone | ||
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βeta: Foot-jam and squirm up to reach top of chockstone |
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Madajo | 7 May, 2019 |
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βeta: First move feels much harder than 4b. | βeta? | |
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βeta: First move feels much harder than 4b. |
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andyebbens | 1 Jan, 2006 |
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βeta: If the start is climbed elegantly, requires some careful footjamming 4b/4c. Am sure ungradable thrutching / heaving is also possible! The traverse is basically a walk for anyone climbing at VS. | ||
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βeta: If the start is climbed elegantly, requires some careful footjamming 4b/4c. Am sure ungradable thrutching / heaving is also possible! The traverse is basically a walk for anyone climbing at VS. |
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davidwright | 16 Nov, 2005 |
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βeta: definatly severe as it is in the BMC guidebook. The start is thruchy but not hard and not 4c. An easier route than sunset slab or even greengut on frogatt. The last (1996) BMC guide upgraded a lot of birchens routes (but not this one) as they are unprotectable and the objective grades were given when nobody expected runners on gritstone. 'cos the pro is better it is 30 years since anybody expected a leg snapping deck out at the crux of a VDiff. Its not that these routes have become harder it is that they are comparitvely more serious than they were. | βeta? | |
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βeta: definatly severe as it is in the BMC guidebook. The start is thruchy but not hard and not 4c. An easier route than sunset slab or even greengut on frogatt. The last (1996) BMC guide upgraded a lot of birchens routes (but not this one) as they are unprotectable and the objective grades were given when nobody expected runners on gritstone. 'cos the pro is better it is 30 years since anybody expected a leg snapping deck out at the crux of a VDiff. Its not that these routes have become harder it is that they are comparitvely more serious than they were. |
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Si dH | 6 Aug, 2004 |
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βeta: The start is easy, just jam your foot, grab the chock, push and pull. Nothing to it. | ||
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βeta: The start is easy, just jam your foot, grab the chock, push and pull. Nothing to it. |
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Chris Fitzhugh | 17 Jun, 2004 |
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βeta: If you work out the trad/VDiff start, you don't even need to touch the jammed boulder. And climb back down for fun! Chris | βeta? | |
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βeta: If you work out the trad/VDiff start, you don't even need to touch the jammed boulder. And climb back down for fun! Chris |
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Ander | 30 Nov, 2003 |
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βeta: 4a start for anyone who didn't learn to climb on an indoor wall, I'm afraid, fellas. | βeta? | |
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βeta: 4a start for anyone who didn't learn to climb on an indoor wall, I'm afraid, fellas. |
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Simon Caldwell | 27 Oct, 2003 |
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βeta: I've just done Spiral Route at Rivelin, another route with a hand traverse. Apparently it is now the same grade as Power Monkey Parade :-| | βeta? | |
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βeta: I've just done Spiral Route at Rivelin, another route with a hand traverse. Apparently it is now the same grade as Power Monkey Parade :-| |
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Simon Caldwell | 27 Jun, 2002 |
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βeta: No question of having to dangle on the traverse unless you've broken both your ankles. The hard bit's leaving the ground, and even that was quite easy with a well placed foot jam. HS tops, I'd say S 4a. And yes it's harder than Heather Wall, but Heather Wall is VDiff not Severe, whatever Rockfax (and Brian) say! | βeta? | |
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βeta: No question of having to dangle on the traverse unless you've broken both your ankles. The hard bit's leaving the ground, and even that was quite easy with a well placed foot jam. HS tops, I'd say S 4a. And yes it's harder than Heather Wall, but Heather Wall is VDiff not Severe, whatever Rockfax (and Brian) say! |
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LakesWinter | 14 May, 2002 |
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βeta: I agree, it was a severe 4a in the old guide and still is in reality, just a tough start but no more than severe after that, maybe severe 4b tops | βeta? | |
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βeta: I agree, it was a severe 4a in the old guide and still is in reality, just a tough start but no more than severe after that, maybe severe 4b tops |
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Grade: S 5a ***
(Froggatt Edge)