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The fine twisting groove is one of the best routes on the crag though not all agree! The initial corner is the thrutchy crux for many, it is usually wedged and jammed facing right, though it can also be layback or even bridged, facing in or out! The midway ledge offers some respite then the upper bulging groove can be laybacked or bridged elegantly to easy ground. © Rockfax
FA. Peter Harding 1947.
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| JayW | 4 Jun, 2020 |
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βeta: A fine climb. There's an in situ wire on the crack on the upper bulge. | βeta? | |
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βeta: A fine climb. There's an in situ wire on the crack on the upper bulge. |
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| Iain Thow | 17 Mar, 2007 |
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βeta: Thuglaybackbridgejamswingyeeehah! - and what a line. One of the best routes on grit | ||
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βeta: Thuglaybackbridgejamswingyeeehah! - and what a line. One of the best routes on grit |
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| Luke01 | 20 Aug, 2006 |
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βeta: I agree with Kristian, if you elegantly bridge with a touch of laybacking for a move or two, the route is beautiful, and delicate. | ||
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βeta: I agree with Kristian, if you elegantly bridge with a touch of laybacking for a move or two, the route is beautiful, and delicate. |
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| vvanhinsbergh | 17 May, 2006 |
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βeta: Thoroughly enjoyable, best climb i have found on Stanage so far.... Agree the bottom is not for the light hearted, although i managed first attempt as my first HVS! | βeta? | |
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βeta: Thoroughly enjoyable, best climb i have found on Stanage so far.... Agree the bottom is not for the light hearted, although i managed first attempt as my first HVS! |
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| CurlyStevo | 11 May, 2006 |
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βeta: It simply isn't HVD at the bootom, the bottom is the crux and is harder than any VS corner crack I've climbed. | βeta? | |
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βeta: It simply isn't HVD at the bootom, the bottom is the crux and is harder than any VS corner crack I've climbed. |
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| andygb | 9 May, 2006 |
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βeta: Climbed this at VS. When it was 'upgraded' to HVS several years ago (along with many other routes in a new guide)I was so incensed that I soloed it, first route of the day to prove a point - I was not an HVS solo leader at the time. HVD bottom, pleasant VS above. | βeta? | |
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βeta: Climbed this at VS. When it was 'upgraded' to HVS several years ago (along with many other routes in a new guide)I was so incensed that I soloed it, first route of the day to prove a point - I was not an HVS solo leader at the time. HVD bottom, pleasant VS above. |
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| MNA123 | 10 Apr, 2006 |
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βeta: Yeh i fell off and weighted the gear a couple of three times on the initial crack. after the pump out on the ledge the rest is a lot easier then it looks, feels a tad precarious when your pumped out to the max tho, bloody grtstone, bloody love it :-)! | βeta? | |
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βeta: Yeh i fell off and weighted the gear a couple of three times on the initial crack. after the pump out on the ledge the rest is a lot easier then it looks, feels a tad precarious when your pumped out to the max tho, bloody grtstone, bloody love it :-)! |
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| Wil Treasure | 22 Jan, 2006 |
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βeta: There seem to be a few who've decked off this. Not quite sure how, it's easy to place good protection for the first section without an enormous cam. Good climbing, which is straightforward but energy sapping for the start (I jammed). | βeta? | |
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βeta: There seem to be a few who've decked off this. Not quite sure how, it's easy to place good protection for the first section without an enormous cam. Good climbing, which is straightforward but energy sapping for the start (I jammed). |
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| EarlyBird | 11 Dec, 2005 |
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βeta: Interesting range of opinions. I did this as one of my first HVS's, as it was considered a soft touch. Laybacked the first 15ft, first piece of gear as the angle eased and it all felt pretty easy. Have been back since and thrutched it, very secure; and bridged it, very elegant but very precarious. I don't think this can be considered hard for HVS unless you're afraid to get physical with those first 15 ft. | βeta? | |
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βeta: Interesting range of opinions. I did this as one of my first HVS's, as it was considered a soft touch. Laybacked the first 15ft, first piece of gear as the angle eased and it all felt pretty easy. Have been back since and thrutched it, very secure; and bridged it, very elegant but very precarious. I don't think this can be considered hard for HVS unless you're afraid to get physical with those first 15 ft. |
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| steveoracle | 14 Nov, 2005 |
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βeta: bloody awful, the lower cracks a desperate thrutch and the upper is a short realtively easy layback. No way three stars, the Blurter is much much better... | βeta? | |
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βeta: bloody awful, the lower cracks a desperate thrutch and the upper is a short realtively easy layback. No way three stars, the Blurter is much much better... |
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| sheffieldchris | 30 Oct, 2005 |
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βeta: anyone saying this is easy is climbing well above the hvs grade and talking out of their a.s. if this is at the top of your normal game stay away until you are climbing solid at hvs. i tried it as one of my first hvs's came off hit the deck skined a knuckle allmost off. Next time a year later bridged up it still hard, not easy to put gear in as you are more to the right of crack but got through it, bold and strong arms needed | ||
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βeta: anyone saying this is easy is climbing well above the hvs grade and talking out of their a.s. if this is at the top of your normal game stay away until you are climbing solid at hvs. i tried it as one of my first hvs's came off hit the deck skined a knuckle allmost off. Next time a year later bridged up it still hard, not easy to put gear in as you are more to the right of crack but got through it, bold and strong arms needed |
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| Chris the Tall | 11 Oct, 2005 |
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βeta: Hideous and desperate for the first 15ft, but great thereafter. Probably not a great choice if you have a hangover and a paranoia about foot-jamming | βeta? | |
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βeta: Hideous and desperate for the first 15ft, but great thereafter. Probably not a great choice if you have a hangover and a paranoia about foot-jamming |
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| Munir Hassan | 30 Aug, 2005 |
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βeta: My first HVS - admittedly not quite a clean ascent on the first short blank section. | βeta? | |
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βeta: My first HVS - admittedly not quite a clean ascent on the first short blank section. |
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| Richard Horn | 16 Dec, 2004 |
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βeta: Hindsight is a great thing... | βeta? | |
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βeta: Hindsight is a great thing... |
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| Tom Gilbert | 16 Dec, 2004 |
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βeta: The finger jam, is that not quite high up? Why did you only have one cam in? | βeta? | |
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βeta: The finger jam, is that not quite high up? Why did you only have one cam in? |
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| Richard Horn | 29 Nov, 2004 |
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βeta: I am one of the 'poor unsuspecting outsiders' mentioned above that tried this on my first trip to Stanage doing routes on saturday. Having tried bridging it I slithered off the initial groove onto a No 4 cam and then retreated to the ground for a rest upset at losing the onsight but comforted by the gear holding well. Anyway next try I slithered off again only one move or so from the safety of the finger jam, this time the cam ripped and I landed on the rocks below on my back. Maybe this is standard fare for gritstone specialists but seemed plain nasty for someone unfamiliar with the techniques. The bruises I have now suggest this route should carry a health warning! | βeta? | |
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βeta: I am one of the 'poor unsuspecting outsiders' mentioned above that tried this on my first trip to Stanage doing routes on saturday. Having tried bridging it I slithered off the initial groove onto a No 4 cam and then retreated to the ground for a rest upset at losing the onsight but comforted by the gear holding well. Anyway next try I slithered off again only one move or so from the safety of the finger jam, this time the cam ripped and I landed on the rocks below on my back. Maybe this is standard fare for gritstone specialists but seemed plain nasty for someone unfamiliar with the techniques. The bruises I have now suggest this route should carry a health warning! |
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| Jon Greengrass | 17 Jun, 2003 |
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βeta: Looked at it and thought, i'll try the elegant bridging method, got up to the first decent foot holds with no gear and could barely reach the back of the crack to place a wire and didn't have a size 5 friend. So went with the thrutch technique, the knee locks are amazing and give you a no hands rest on every move! I was quite worried when my whole left leg started getting very hot( route induce DVT?) only nuts 8-9 will be accepted or a size 1 friend. After the initial thrutch, the rest of the route can be bridged pleasantly and laces with gear at about severe. | ||
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βeta: Looked at it and thought, i'll try the elegant bridging method, got up to the first decent foot holds with no gear and could barely reach the back of the crack to place a wire and didn't have a size 5 friend. So went with the thrutch technique, the knee locks are amazing and give you a no hands rest on every move! I was quite worried when my whole left leg started getting very hot( route induce DVT?) only nuts 8-9 will be accepted or a size 1 friend. After the initial thrutch, the rest of the route can be bridged pleasantly and laces with gear at about severe. |
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| Robo | 30 Jun, 2002 |
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βeta: Argh. The bottom crack. Flared. Polished. Bridged, lay-backed, fallen off. Ripped trousers and arms. How the hell do you climb that??? | ||
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βeta: Argh. The bottom crack. Flared. Polished. Bridged, lay-backed, fallen off. Ripped trousers and arms. How the hell do you climb that??? |
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Tody's Wall
Grade: HVS 5a ***
(Froggatt Edge)