In reply to The Pylon King:
> Although my recently acquired Five Ten Camp Fours are already falling apart so maybe Five ten are crap now.
Interesting that you say that about you Camp Fours. I have bought C4s for years now (the fit is [was] good for me and they have been good value in the past), and due to the amount of time I need to wear them I have several pairs on the go at once. I have six pairs on the go at the moment. Three pair are in the country I am in at the moment and another three are in another country. I usually get 9 to 12 months out of each pair. Anyway about nine months ago I bought a pair and they were distinctly different from the previous pairs that I have bought; in looks and fit. Anyway, after two VFs and a day guiding the rubber sole was coming away from upper in several places. I asked the shop to replace them and they did. The new pair have fared a bit better, but they are also coming apart, and the fit seems to have changed as well, they gave me blisters on the top of my toes (could not be arsed to contact the shop again). All in all it looks like they did a redesign, or changed the supplier and they are now crap (for me at least). I have decided that I will not buy them anymore and the next pair I buy will be from a different manufacturer. I did email Five Ten about them, but had no reply (bad customer support).
Anyone else have a problem, or just me and the pylon king?