UKH

Anyone tried them yet? 

There are a few reviews online but they are mostly american and their trail conditions aren't quite the same as here in the UK. 

Particularly interested in how sticky the rubber is compared to VJs as well if anyone has a comparison!

In reply to Garethza:

NNo.

In reply to Garethza:

Not seen a pair in the flesh as of yet, but know of someone in the club who has a pair.

In reply to Garethza: You know where Killian Jornet lives right?

Åndalsnes, which has trails on the lower slopes similar to Britain, and a bit tougher up top.  If they work for him there they'll be good for the UK

In reply to wbo2:

Yeah I thought the same however there isn’t much lug depth even for his local terrain.. 

In reply to Garethza:

I've not tried the specific shoes but I've had shoes with megragrip soles. It's sticky enough but in my experience not as sticky as whatever VJ use. More importantly VJ shoes tend to have deeper lugs, which is probably more important in Britain for 9 months of the year. Both of these are soft compounds which will wear down quickly on hard ground.

In reply to wbo2:

The website describes him as "... a pluridisciplinar athlete.." which I think means he does sports in the rain?

Looked very interesting until I noticed all the trainers had that fashionable sole that extends out behind the heel (to encourage heel striking?).

In reply to CantClimbTom: For descending

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRzeLDkWT1c&t=91s 

He's big on durability.  When you're finished you return the shoes, don't bin them

In reply to wbo2:

Return not bin could be problematic based on distance (carbon footprint) but to offer that as an option is extraordinary! Good for him.

In reply to Garethza:

Wow it would difficult to find a more unsuitable shoe for Peak District running.

In reply to robert-hutton:

Do you mean the colour? The Kjerag comes in black. 

In reply to robert-hutton:

I haven't used them, so can't comment first hand, but I noticed Steve Franklin - former owner of Front Runner in Sheffield and winner of a great many races in/around the Peak District - using a pair of Tomir the other week and he reckoned they were one of the best all-round shoes out there. 

That definitely made me curious, as that's quite an accolade!

In reply to RobGreenwood: But for Peak District fell running you probably don't want an all round shoe.... you'd want a Walsh or a VJ, something for a lot of soft mud.  Conversely for a lot of what I run (gravel, forest, some rocks ) a Walsh or a VJ is a pretty poor choice.

Re. returns, someone local to me isn't stocking them yet, but if they do, you return to the shop, they keep a box, and when that's full they send it back

In reply to wbo2:

I'm not sure if by 'Peak District running' Robert meant schlepping up and down the rough stuff on Kinder or running on trails, some of which were quite nice in road shoes during the dry May/June spell.

Accelerate in Sheffield have them in stock.

In reply to Tom Briggs:

I personally prefer running shoes to be stripped down with studs, with that amount of cushioning twisted ankles would be my concern.

In reply to wbo2:

I guess the answer depends on exactly what you want to do with it and when, but for me - from spring through to autumn - those sorts of deeply lugged shoes are largely unnecessary (and wear out quite quickly). You still need shoes with a good depth of tread, but I think it's a myth that you need that much year-round.

Whilst there's undoubtedly rough terrain within the Peak District (bogs, heather, gritstone), there's also a lot of well worn footpaths, tracks and trails which benefit from something with a bit more cushioning and support. I'd certainly opt for an all-rounder over such a specialist shoe for 99% of my running - much of which is on pretty rough terrain.

In reply to Rob Greenwood - UKClimbing:

Ditto - I have never particularly liked studded shoes , Roberts preference is different.  For ubermud x-country, spikes.

In reply to Rob Greenwood - UKClimbing:

Horses for courses?

I wonder how much bodyweight comes into play. I'm probably at the heavier end of the spectrum and find that whilst in the summer any shoe will do, in the winter I appreciate being anchored by some hefty lugs, and wear them 99% of the time.