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I'm part of a community group of climbers trying to establish a new community owned training gym in Stroud. It will be an unmanned facility on key fob access 24hr.

None of us have done this before and we are looking for advice on:

Insurance

Legals

Structures

Precedent

Any help is greatly appreciated as we are hoping to secure a site imminently and we wish to pin costs down to build funding budgets ASAP.

Al

Alastair dot p dot Scott at gmail

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15,30and 45 degree symmetric  system board with a variety of wooden holds plus two sizes of foot holds. Hold would be the principle cost. Campus board, a few finger boards and some scaffolding for pull ups rings, trx. Set of second hand weight lifting sets and a set of used kettle bells. Crash matting at about 100 quid per sq meter.

Insurance -get quotes. Public liability, professional indemnity, and the other one commonly insure up to 5 million per event but how much it costs depends on the proposal

Don't forget rates on top of rent, though a charity might find a way out of that?

 And how are you going to control entry with mis-users key code sharing online or key fob sharing? Or tailgating.  Web cams? Get in touch if you want to use biometrics. I can help there. A robust system will keep insurance costs down.

Hope it works out for you.

There is a wall in Galway that runs like this perhaps you could reach out 

The School Room is a good place to start, and operates 24h. Membership rather than community owned

youtube.com/watch?v=OK7GsUGqT7I&

Paul

I don't know if it is still running but worth contacting

The Chapel

I've also looked in to this. Insurance is problematic in practise should something actually go wrong. And even in extremely popular climbing areas with lower rents it's hard to just break even (before you factor in build costs).

We've got insurance now sorted and costs will be kept low through DIY build, favourable lease terms and access to cheaper than normal holds. 

Watch this space, it all hinges on how much we can fund raise.

www.climbingcommons.org

Thank you. This looks like a great model! Just need to try and find details.

This is great feedback and the sort of insight we're looking for! 

Entry will be single use QR codes with webcam on entry. Can all run without internet, but needs power. 

Insurance and Lease is all in place and favourable. 

Thank you.

My thoughts would be to double check with insurers they're are happy with something totally and utterly unstaffed. From what I understand this is yet to be tested in law without at least remote CCTV monitoring. And check they're happy with self build.

To me it seemed it would be very easy for insurers to wash their hands should something go wrong. You definitely don't want to be on the hook.

.self build shouldn't be a problem. It's not difficult but if there is any uncertainty a climbing wall experienced carpenter could certify the build. Many bouldering walls are community builds. 

Try and make space for classes. If the community of users gets big enough local pi's could run strength and conditioning or acro yoga /yoga there.