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<edited due to sudden revision of the rules>

I was watching a film the other night when it struck me that there were no female characters at all. How rare is this I thought?... and couldn't name any more.

Q: Name a major studio release film that does not contain a single shot of a female actress in a role?


<< Rules....
<< 1) No porn films
<< 2) No animations as you don't expect to see the actual actress anyway.
<< 3) No internet searches
<< 4) I will allow machines/telephone exchanges dubbed with a female voice as mine apparently has one, but you never see her.

How long before you get the one I watched ????? and are there any more ??

In reply to sbc_10:

Lord of the flies?

In reply to goose299:

Excellent work Sir.

2 minutes after my re-post. It is not the film I watched but it does fulfill the criteria.
Well done, I had to check though just in case there was a flashback mother/long lost aunt memory scene. That was quick though.

So, there's more than one.....but which film did I watch ???

In reply to sbc_10:

Too be fair, I wasn'tsure but i re read the book recently and there's no women in the book.
I've been racking my brains and can't think of another film without resorting to google

In reply to sbc_10:

Lock stock and two smoking barrels. Couple of female extras but none involved in the story.

In reply to sbc_10:

The Thing.

In reply to lucas95:

Good guess, but if a lady appears on screen at all, it is discounted.

< since i am adjudicator I can do a google search....and apparently there is a credited role of Gloria played by Suzy Ratner >

My film has no visual female actresses at all.

In reply to sbc_10:

Silent Running?

In reply to The Mystery Toad:

Darn it!!....1 hour 6 minutes. Well done.

Yes, quite surprising. The remake does have a female character, which got me thinking about the original and it doesn't, apart from a disembodied computer voice.

I would be surprised if the Movie giants today would release a film without a gender balance of any description. Accountants would worry about their audiences...and their dollars.

Good work.

In reply to Pedro50:


Nice one. My original post had a rule that forbade "female inside robot suits".
But since you do not see her, then it's another winner.

....3 and counting.

In reply to sbc_10:

Black Hawk Down

In reply to sbc_10:

Also, cant recall a female in Ice Station Zebra? (This thread is gonna ruin my day Thx Sbc!)

In reply to sbc_10:

Are you referring to Duel - because although Weaver rings his wife, I don't think we actually see her ? ? Can't remember.

In reply to Padraig:

Ice Station Zebra looks like another winner. (4)
Black Hawk Down, no females credited. I have never seen it but am thinking there must be one female extra somewhere in a crowd scene etc.... but can't find any on Youtube..(5*) until somebody puts us right.

Sorry for the mental anguish. But you have the prize probably for the biggest grossing movie without a female appearence....at the moment.

In reply to Gordon Stainforth:

>Duel

There is apparently at least three female screen roles in that one, although I thought there was only Dennis Weaver and the Stig.

In reply to sbc_10:

Das Boot? Again can't recall a female but it's been a while since I last watched it!!

In reply to sbc_10:



Watched it a couple of times and pretty sure there are females in some of the crowd scenes. ;-(

In reply to sbc_10:

I did think of putting Derek Jarmine's "Blue" down but probably against the spirit of the quiz?

In reply to Padraig:

Das Boot.....1981, I have a listing of a character called Monique played by the gloriously named Rita Cadillac.

Never seen it in the whole. There seems to be a submarine /ice / remoteness theme developing.

Still on (4), I don't want to watch BHDown and spoil the film trying to spot a female on freeze frame.

"Blue" ...yes,a film, not animated, but I suppose a soundtrack /dialogue rather than a movie, as I presume it doesn't move. What 4'33" does for drum n'bass.

In reply to sbc_10:

Reservoir dogs?

In reply to The Mystery Toad:

Apparently there is a "shot woman" and "shocked woman".
Not meaty roles for sure, but still in there.

In reply to The Mystery Toad:


Was there also a "waitress"?

In reply to sbc_10:

Well? Can we google now! Ya killing me..... Theres gotta be a few more surely..

In reply to sbc_10:

12 Angry men.
Rambo.
The great escape.
Dark Star.
Run silent, run deep.
The flight of the phoenix.

In reply to estivoautumnal:







Did think of 12 Angry men. Thot it was too obvs!
Great Escape ......deffo women in it! Prob at train station?
Rambo - gotta be women in background?

In reply to Padraig:

12 Angry men...has a woman in the corridor in the opening scene.
Rambo....street scenes
Dark Star.....another Winner (5)
The Great Escape ....nah youtube.com/watch?v=o0wNl66tT3Q&
Run Silent Run Deep... has Clark Gables wife on shore youtube.com/watch?v=TKM7CzLytxc& at 1 minute.
Flight of the Phoenix .....alas a belly dancing woman appears ina fantasy sequence.

Good tries. Dark star is a beaut.

In reply to Padraig:

Ok then Padraig. Open up the data portal. Verification is harder though.

In reply to sbc_10:

Master and Commander

In reply to sbc_10:
Strangely, prefer my memory! lolz

Dark STar?

In reply to mbh:


Good shout!! Watched it a few times and can't recall females. Theres gotta be one somewhere tho?

In reply to sbc_10:

Locke

In reply to sbc_10:

Can anyone name a film that has no male actor by the same rule. Got to be harder

In reply to Padraig:

What about

The Hill
King Rat

In reply to Padraig:

There certainly is ....
youtube.com/watch?v=pFeCVCKYo4Y&

2'08 of this trailer has an island maiden catching Crowe's eye. I presume this bit is in the final edit.

>>>sunk

In reply to markK6:

I thought you may be right with "The Hill"

but....

youtube.com/watch?v=7BhRVq4MR-Y&

7'51 into this German dubbed version. That looks suspiciously like a couple of female hillocks he has just climbed off of.

>> flattened.

In reply to markK6:

King Rat .....looks promising. I'll put it in for the (6th)*
*=under review.
No immediate evidence to contest this.

In reply to Duncan Bourne:

Locke....looks like an interesting movie. Does he just drive and listen to voices.

Again, no immediate evidence to suggest female sighting. Even if one is sighted in a passing car, or in a mirror, it fails.....
So, its gets no. 7*

>> amber status.

In reply to sbc_10:

he is actually the only person in the film. I enjoyed it

In reply to Duncan Bourne:

There are two major female characters though, and you hear them both in extended dialogue scenes. Also a female nurse on the phone. I think it's a terrible example. Though to be fair to you, the edited OP (I never saw the original) is muddled.

I have done this thread on here before with tighter rules (not even a CONVERSATION amongst the men, referring to any women), and there really weren't many. You would think that most submarine military movies would
fit the bill but there is always someone going on about a wife.

I do have a feeling, though, that The Bedford Incident MIGHT fit this.


Glengarry Glen Ross fits the OP's criteria but I did not allow it because Jonathan Pryce confers with his unseen and unheard wife, on the other end of a telephone conversation, therefore she is involved in the film and affects the action. She is a character.




EDIT after digging up the old thread. Apparently I had asked for "no speaking roles" in the OP but it was a badly written OP and I tightened the rule to "not on screen". This thread doesn't seem to have the "no reference to women" thing though, which makes me suspect that that idea came out of The Bedford Incident where as mentioned before, I am not sure that any sailor mentions a woman once.

Here is the thread, some good suggestions (many getting shot down in flames of course!)

http://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/t.php?t=379315&v=1#x5488941

In reply to Blue Straggler:

Can't please everybody
I really enjoyed responding to the thread, especially the muddled bits. .

In reply to Blue Straggler:

Bet you can't name a film with no male characters, only female

In reply to sbc_10:

I think King Rat might have come out of the original thread unsullied. It is a stunning film.

In reply to Duncan Bourne:

"The Women", 1930s thing.

In reply to Duncan Bourne:


Various prison exploitation flicks of dubious provenance as well

In reply to Duncan Bourne:

Ooh! The Company of Strangers! A sweet little Canadian film about some women on a bus trip, the bus breaks down and they just chat amongst each other whilst waiting for a repair or tow. Not 100% sure, it was more than 20 years ago that I saw it on telly.

In reply to Blue Straggler:

Interesting but was the bus driven by a male and did the repair truck have a male driver?

In reply to Duncan Bourne:

I can't remember. Maybe we don't see the tow truck. Maybe the driver was a woman. Maybe we don't see the driver (perhaps he/she has already gone for help before the film starts). I definitely remember it as an all-female cast but that is not to say that they don't chat about their husbands etc.


I think there are more films with no male characters than there are with no female characters but that this is mostly due to the existence of dubious prison exploitation flicks!

In reply to Blue Straggler:

Good one

In reply to Duncan Bourne:
Internet says the driver was a woman. I remember now. It's mostly old women on a trip, but the driver was a young woman.

I won your bet.
And that's just two that sprang to mind! I am sure Google can show me more. Or even if I just Google inside my brain (though probably some details of minor male characters get lost....e.g. people think The Descent is all women, forgetting that the whole thing is kicked off by a suspected affair between one of the women and another's husband, who is totally seen on screen)

In reply to Blue Straggler:

Well done. Not easy though is it

Another all male film I thought of "Lawrence of Arabia"

In reply to Duncan Bourne:


FAIL! See the OP of the thread I linked.
Though there may be a mistake - it could be that none of the women speak. I had thought a lady at the funeral at the start had spoken to admonish the brash American journalist, but having seen it more recently, she is just "there" and doesn't speak.


Sleuth fits my original thread but fails badly on the "no reference to women" thing. And it's arty/stagey isn't it.

In reply to sbc_10:

Back to your OP after that digression, and I've just mentioned it and it's my other thread but to directly answer you, with an example that also happens to be a great and essential film:

Sleuth

In reply to Blue Straggler:

Sleuth (1972)

There is an Eve Channing listed on IMDB, and also in the film credits themselves, but I have not been able to spot her.
Hence another winner.

Is it some kind of theatrical 'in-joke' name for phantom characters? There is a special credit I think, that appears if an artiste has taken their name off a movie.

In reply to sbc_10:




This implies you have seen the film! Good



There used to be "Alan Smithee" for directors who disowned a film, but then someone made this disastrous comedy called "An Alan Smithee Film", which was so bad that its own director took his name off it and it really did become an Alan SMithee film (this was not a deliberate or clever thing, it was just a rubbish coincidence) and now I think they don't bother.

Eve Channing does not exist. If you watch the classic 1950 film "All About Eve" it will give you some insight. It's an in-joke that exists solely in the credits of Sleuth.

In reply to sbc_10:

All is lost. Just Robert Redford and a boat I think?

In reply to George Fisher:

Nice one. Recent and major.

Of course I saw it coming back in my old thread and excluded "one-man shows" though really that was just for theatrical and arty near-monologue kinda stuff. Can't argue with All is Lost. Is it any good? I have not seen it, you see.

In reply to Blue Straggler:


I saw it way back in the eighties, sadly without the clairvoyance of knowing I would write a thread in a future life that may call upon intimate knowledge of err....everything.
Youtube can be very helpful with on-line debates these days, when the memory gets a little vague.
So... "All about Eve", lets see what that's all about then?

In reply to sbc_10:




It's just a bloody great film, deserving of its classic status and its eleven Oscars which could easily have been twelve. The less you know about it the better! I only saw it for the first time this year, had a vague inkling of the plot but was happily unprepared for what unfolded. Intelligent sharp satire, you have to be VERY alert and listen to every little thing and watch all the nuances.

In reply to Blue Straggler:

Valhalla Rising. 2009.?

In reply to dek:

Major studio release?! I know it is Winding Refn, and Mikkelsen was briefly a bit famous, but you are pushing it a bit!

Mind you I WAS going to say "if you're having THAT, I'll have THIS" re:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097250/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2

but (again this is one that I saw once around 24 years ago) it seems there is a "Sonja" in it.


Back to more major stuff but sticking to the Scandi director theme, the recent Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy almost fits, apart from the Kathy Burke character and a few tiny roles. I guess Burke was pivotal and arguably one of the "tiny" roles (to throw you off the scent, re: the proclivities of one of the principals)