Anybody out there done Civetta (E3) on Carreg Alltrem, Dolwyddelan.
The text in the 2002 Meirionydd guide (p233) doesn't resemble any features around that area of rock.
The line of Civetta shown on the crag photo, climbs a right facing corner which resembles the description of Lavrol (E2).
The photo in the back of the CC 1983 McGinley guide shows Civetta to be further left - but again the route decription doesn't really match the terrain.
Civetta is meant to be a really good route - The line in the old guide looks dirty whilst the line in the latest guide looks really good - All a bit confusing.
My arms are to weak and my balls to small at the moment , but I hope to on-sight both routes in the summer.
Clarification would be much appreciated.