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Cwm Cneifion in Winter - Hidden Gully and Y Gribin Walking

This winter mountaineer's horseshoe climbs a short but exciting grade II gully that is all but hidden from above and below (the clue is in the name). The gully heads up between two sheer spurs, making it feel like you're walking up a tight corridor. You literally pop out of this and then head east towards the top of Y Gribin, a fantastic grade I winter ridge, which is descended. This route is an out and out winter climb, and not for walkers. Unless there is consolidated snow on the ground then Hidden Gully will not be climbable. There is a BMC temperature gauge in the area so you can check the ground condition before heading up.

Hidden Gully - Cwm Cneifion  © Snowdonia  Adventures
Hidden Gully - Cwm Cneifion © Snowdonia Adventures
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SH6495860375 From the car park walk up the main track that heads up the left side of the National Trust Interpretation Centre. Follow this up through a decorative gate, over a bridge and on up a wide paved footpath. The path makes a sharp right and heads up to the outflow from Llyn Idwal. From here turn left and follow the path along the shore and through a drystone wall.

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SH6467359618 Just after the drystone wall a path leaves this main path and starts to head up and right across the hillside, passing below Sub-Cneifion Rib, and continuing to gain the hanging valley of Cwm Cneifion. Once in the cwm start up the left side of the valley, aiming for a small flattening on a spur below the impressive Clogwyn Ddu, which is a popular winter climbing venue.

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SH6469958241 From the spur head up to gain Hidden Gully (see photo below). From the base of the gully, climb a couple of pitches to pop out onto the plateau at the top. This is a genuine (if easy) winter climb, not a walker's route, and can only be recommended to properly equipped and experienced climbing teams.
Climbers starting up Hidden Gully  © Trevers
Climbers starting up Hidden Gully
© Trevers, Feb 2015

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SH6460958014 Having popped out of the gully onto the plateau, turn left and follow the broad ridge towards the top of Y Gribin. In bad weather this can involve white out navigation. From the top of the Y Gribin Ridge, descend the narrow arete. This is often easier but more exposed if you stick with the true ridge rather than the flanks. Just before the end of the ridge you need to descend down and left to pick up a path that runs across a large football pitch sized flattening, before the ridge narrows a little and the path picks its way down to a T-junction with a footpath.
Topping out into sunshine on Hidden Gully  © Cornish boy
Topping out into sunshine on Hidden Gully
© Cornish boy, Feb 2016

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SH6518559436 Turn right and walk along the path towards the outflow from Llyn Bochlwyd and take the path that follows the left bank down, gently at first, before a section of rocky stairs leads to flatter ground below. Stay on the path and use the stepping stones to pass over a wet boggy area to eventually join the main Llyn Idwal path at a prominent right hand bend. Carry straight on down the path to the car park.

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