18m.

Rockfax Description
Excellent. A boulder problem start (hard for the short) gains the crack right of the arete. Follow this (thread) to a ledge on the left and mantel onto a higher ledge. Move left round the arete and climb the easy green groove on sloping holds. © Rockfax

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The Roaches - Routes Graded List , Steve Ashton's 100 Classic Gritstone Climbs , Western Peak Grit 100 VD - VS , ROCKFAX Western Grit Grade List , 100 Western Grit Stars , Roaches w sobote? :) , Northern (Yorkshire !?) Climbs for a Southerner , Wired Peak District Grit Graded List , Level 1 Peak Trad Routes , 2024

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locksbury 16 Apr, 2022 Show βeta
βeta: A good fun route! Don\'t bother with the \"grene exit\" it\'s currenly so muddy it\'s dangerous. Instead go right and take the cabing exit... ;)
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βeta: A good fun route! Don't bother with the "grene exit" it's currenly so muddy it's dangerous. Instead go right and take the cabing exit... ;)
Mike Cox 2 Jul, 2021 Show βeta
βeta: Nice route..steep jug hauling but shame about about the grotty finish and overshadowed by the following route black & tans.
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βeta: Nice route..steep jug hauling but shame about about the grotty finish and overshadowed by the following route black & tans.
Iain Thow 19 Mar, 2007 Show βeta
βeta: Good, but surely not a Top 50 route, over in a couple of moves. Great holds, though
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βeta: Good, but surely not a Top 50 route, over in a couple of moves. Great holds, though
Steve Banham 13 Nov, 2006 Show βeta
βeta: Never Harder then a severe. It has Massive Jugs, and Threads all the way up to the top, and a thread for a belay. HVD in my opinion
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βeta: Never Harder then a severe. It has Massive Jugs, and Threads all the way up to the top, and a thread for a belay. HVD in my opinion
TiffTiff 1 Aug, 2006 Show βeta
βeta: Tricky start, but once second runner is in, it is easy to enjoy the rest of the route. Just watch your ropes at the top otherwise bringing up rope and second(s) can be a chore
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βeta: Tricky start, but once second runner is in, it is easy to enjoy the rest of the route. Just watch your ropes at the top otherwise bringing up rope and second(s) can be a chore
Jon Greengrass 20 Oct, 2005 Show βeta
βeta: led this with a couple of slings and some pebbles, nice route just a bit of a pull at the start
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βeta: led this with a couple of slings and some pebbles, nice route just a bit of a pull at the start
Steve Banham 18 Oct, 2005 Show βeta
βeta: It's a VDiff or HVD at most, and is undeserving of a S. I first assended it using a head torch, and the second time in less than 5 min. Dispite the miss-grading it's still a fun route
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βeta: It's a VDiff or HVD at most, and is undeserving of a S. I first assended it using a head torch, and the second time in less than 5 min. Dispite the miss-grading it's still a fun route
LakesWinter 18 May, 2004 Show βeta
βeta: I guess we'll just agree to differ then!
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βeta: I guess we'll just agree to differ then!
LakesWinter 17 May, 2004 Show βeta
βeta: There are about 3 threads on the part before the huge flat ledge. There is a good sling on the flake before the 1st thread, not hard after the very first move, all the holds are great, a nice climb and never HS
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βeta: There are about 3 threads on the part before the huge flat ledge. There is a good sling on the flake before the 1st thread, not hard after the very first move, all the holds are great, a nice climb and never HS

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Grade: S 4a ***
(Roaches Upper Tier)

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