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Rockfax Description
The fine groove is arguably the best line on the crag; it took a couple of days of digging before the first ascent was possible. The route is quite polished and a little awkward towards the top but protection is excellent throughout. © Rockfax

FA. Nat Allen 1948.

Ticklists

Top 23 UKC Climbed Climbs, ROCKFAX Eastern Grit (2006): Top 500, Steve Ashton's 100 Classic Gritstone Climbs, Eastern Grit Jamming, Full of Myself - Johnny's Book namecheck, Froggatt to Black Rocks (BMC) - The Grade List, Eastern Peak Grit 100 VD- VS, Peak Gritstone S-HVS **+, UK Classic Corners, Northern (Yorkshire !?) Climbs for a Southerner, Peak Rock/6/ The Emergence of Joe Brown and Don Whillans, Chatsworth to Bamford, AMC Uni Ticklist, 50 of the Best, ULMC Classics, The Froggatt to Black Rocks 3 Star Pilgrimage, Definitive *** Peak Grit, Bridging Corners, Grooves, Diedres in the UK, Eastern Grit 2 star plus (HVS/VS/HS), Rockfax Peak Gritstone East (2001) Top 50, Definitive Eastern Grit top 50- 2001, 2006 and 2015 editions, Froggatt Cracks (Eastern Grit recommended ticklist), The Gritlist, Beginner Peak Severe, ROCKFAX Eastern Grit TOP 500: S and VS, Green Peak Grit Routes, Peak District Grit Graded List, Peak District Grit (2020) *** List, Eastern Grit Trip: The Best Of The Proposed Crags.

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Scottthedog 13 Sep, 2019 Show βeta
βeta: Incredible!
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βeta: Incredible!
Kirstin 24 Aug, 2019 Show βeta
βeta: Took over after Pete failed.
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βeta: Took over after Pete failed.
AlisonS 18 Jun, 2005 Show βeta
βeta: It obviously doesn't take much for nature to reassert itself. I found it green and slimy and was glad to be able to get plenty of pro in. Interesting though.
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βeta: It obviously doesn't take much for nature to reassert itself. I found it green and slimy and was glad to be able to get plenty of pro in. Interesting though.
stu 29 Nov, 2004 Show βeta
βeta: Not a nice route, very overrated. Can't believe it is in the top 50 list in rockfax. When it is green it can get pretty tricky
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βeta: Not a nice route, very overrated. Can't believe it is in the top 50 list in rockfax. When it is green it can get pretty tricky
nigel pearson 6 Sep, 2004 Show βeta
βeta: A good route. I think it deserves hard severe for the rather sustained nature of the climbing. It is certainly an attractive line.
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βeta: A good route. I think it deserves hard severe for the rather sustained nature of the climbing. It is certainly an attractive line.
LakesWinter 16 Apr, 2004 Show βeta
βeta: I agree with Swirly, it's Severe 4a as the gear is so good and there are loads of rests. I also hate it, it is bunched up, awkward and generally vagrant! April crack is miles better
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βeta: I agree with Swirly, it's Severe 4a as the gear is so good and there are loads of rests. I also hate it, it is bunched up, awkward and generally vagrant! April crack is miles better
Swirly 16 Apr, 2004 Show βeta
βeta: I am theonly person to find this one of the most overrated routes on grit. I spent the whole time bunched up and would grade it easy 4a at the hardest. Why it gets HS is also beyond me, sure if you come off the youvaren't going to be able to grab at the rock and stay on but there's fantastic gear the whole way up. April crack at stanage is a far better HS corner climb.
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βeta: I am theonly person to find this one of the most overrated routes on grit. I spent the whole time bunched up and would grade it easy 4a at the hardest. Why it gets HS is also beyond me, sure if you come off the youvaren't going to be able to grab at the rock and stay on but there's fantastic gear the whole way up. April crack at stanage is a far better HS corner climb.
Dale Berry 11 Oct, 2003 Show βeta
βeta: A good route up a strong line with some good, and also some not so good, rests in between strenuos climbing. If you cruise this then you're ready for your first HS (this is a hard Severe rather than Hard Severe).
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βeta: A good route up a strong line with some good, and also some not so good, rests in between strenuos climbing. If you cruise this then you're ready for your first HS (this is a hard Severe rather than Hard Severe).
Jon Greengrass 10 Sep, 2003 Show βeta
βeta: Wheres all the green? After this summers drought its more of an orange gut.
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βeta: Wheres all the green? After this summers drought its more of an orange gut.
Paul Boardman 17 Sep, 2002 Show βeta
βeta: Tried soloing this one and found the top section quite scary... This one felt quite hard to me for a 4a HS. Perhaps I was missing something, but at one point I had to pull up on a side-pull and no decent foot holds to grab a good ledge and that was near the top... scary mary. That'll teach me ;-)
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βeta: Tried soloing this one and found the top section quite scary... This one felt quite hard to me for a 4a HS. Perhaps I was missing something, but at one point I had to pull up on a side-pull and no decent foot holds to grab a good ledge and that was near the top... scary mary. That'll teach me ;-)

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Grade: HS 4a ***
(Curbar Edge)