Rockfax Description
Climb the left-hand crack (loose blocks) to ledges then traverse right to pass the arete to a comfortable stance (4c). Finish up the tough crack to a superb juggy exit. A better combination is to start up the lower cracks of The Beer Hunter and continue up the second pitch as above, dubbed Two Beers. © Rockfax
FA. Joe Brown 1950.
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cheque | 9 Feb, 2022 |
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βeta: The descriptions of this route in the first three guidebooks it appeared in strongly suggest that the first pitch was originally what’s now described as the start of The Beer Hunter. The 1957 and 1965 guides both refer to the entire route being on the right-hand side of the Buttress and the 1978 guide describes it as starting “round the arête from the start of Apollo”. The 1985 guide is the first to direct climbers up the chossy cracks on the front of the buttress (as for Apollo) instead. This would make sense given that the “Two Beers” combination is vastly superior to the currently described one, more obvious and easily within Joe Brown’s capabilities at the time. | βeta? | |
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βeta: The descriptions of this route in the first three guidebooks it appeared in strongly suggest that the first pitch was originally what’s now described as the start of The Beer Hunter. The 1957 and 1965 guides both refer to the entire route being on the right-hand side of the Buttress and the 1978 guide describes it as starting “round the arête from the start of Apollo”. The 1985 guide is the first to direct climbers up the chossy cracks on the front of the buttress (as for Apollo) instead. This would make sense given that the “Two Beers” combination is vastly superior to the currently described one, more obvious and easily within Joe Brown’s capabilities at the time. |
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saintlade | 20 Mar, 2007 |
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βeta: Ended first pitch at the arete to break it up a bit more which worked nicely. Agree that the second pitch is pretty nails, had to rest on gear for the first time ever after contracting a massive pump on the slopey crack. Not sure it's quite worth 2 stars, good but not really good. | βeta? | |
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βeta: Ended first pitch at the arete to break it up a bit more which worked nicely. Agree that the second pitch is pretty nails, had to rest on gear for the first time ever after contracting a massive pump on the slopey crack. Not sure it's quite worth 2 stars, good but not really good. |
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Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH | 2 Jun, 2006 |
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βeta: The top pitch is definitely harder than 4c, no question whatsoever. | βeta? | |
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βeta: The top pitch is definitely harder than 4c, no question whatsoever. |
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LakesWinter | 7 May, 2005 |
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βeta: The first pitch is wee! I don't know about the top one coz it started raining when I got there last night | βeta? | |
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βeta: The first pitch is wee! I don't know about the top one coz it started raining when I got there last night |
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Tom Chamberlain | 1 Sep, 2004 |
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βeta: I found the top section quite hard, although it was a cold wet day. Not to be underestimated! | βeta? | |
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βeta: I found the top section quite hard, although it was a cold wet day. Not to be underestimated! |
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gooose | 15 Sep, 2003 |
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βeta: Unless I am worse at jamming than I thought, the second pitch of this route is much, much harder than 4c - has a big hold fallen off from in the crack? | βeta? | |
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βeta: Unless I am worse at jamming than I thought, the second pitch of this route is much, much harder than 4c - has a big hold fallen off from in the crack? |
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Grade: VS 4c ***
(Stanage North)