Glyder Fach - Main Gully Grade-2 ** In descent, felt pretty committing getting past the chockstone. with EttaGlyder Fach - Direct Route VS 4c *** Great route. Modern style bridging out, jamming, and laybacking on final pitch is definitely sustained enough for VS 4c in my book. But maybe if you wear tweeds & hobnails and jam your legs in it doesn’t feel so committing, I haven’t tried. with Etta |