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An ancient classic. Climb the rib to a ledge. Move up right to the centre of the slab by a crucial mantel. Continue up the airy arete. © Rockfax
FA. Ivar Berg 1914.
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| C Witter | 3 Sep, 2023 |
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βeta: Plenty of gear, if you look around. Good route. Start the hardest bit? Nice slab padding. No strength: just balance and fear management. Loads of flying ants at the top. | βeta? | |
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βeta: Plenty of gear, if you look around. Good route. Start the hardest bit? Nice slab padding. No strength: just balance and fear management. Loads of flying ants at the top. |
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| milanboez | 7 Jul, 2023 |
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βeta: excellent and interesting slab climbing - thin gear | ||
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βeta: excellent and interesting slab climbing - thin gear |
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| PeteColdham | 3 Sep, 2022 |
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βeta: DMM 00 Dragon can be used to protect the crux excellently instead of a nut or maybe aswell as. | ||
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βeta: DMM 00 Dragon can be used to protect the crux excellently instead of a nut or maybe aswell as. |
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| THE.WALRUS | 4 Aug, 2021 |
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βeta: Decent route. Gear is adequate, but not abundant. The top half of the route, after the crux, is easy. | βeta? | |
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βeta: Decent route. Gear is adequate, but not abundant. The top half of the route, after the crux, is easy. |
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| JayW | 27 May, 2020 |
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βeta: Great route and worthy of the Top 50 badge. The middle section is the crux, which was overcome by a small side pull with the right hand before working the feet up the wall to access the mantel. Top climbing. | ||
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βeta: Great route and worthy of the Top 50 badge. The middle section is the crux, which was overcome by a small side pull with the right hand before working the feet up the wall to access the mantel. Top climbing. |
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| Pythonist | 10 Jun, 2007 |
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βeta: Solo, this feels like a slightly high grade VS, but not by much. Great route though it is, I'm not totally convinced of it's position as one of the best VSs in the Peak. Perhaps it was the screaming cadet crowd top-roping next door that detracted from the enjoyment! | βeta? | |
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βeta: Solo, this feels like a slightly high grade VS, but not by much. Great route though it is, I'm not totally convinced of it's position as one of the best VSs in the Peak. Perhaps it was the screaming cadet crowd top-roping next door that detracted from the enjoyment! |
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| Tom M Williams | 24 Nov, 2005 |
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βeta: Awesome route, gear sparse but its there when you need it. I liked Black slab (hargreaves original route?) more tho. Still well worth the 3stars. | βeta? | |
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βeta: Awesome route, gear sparse but its there when you need it. I liked Black slab (hargreaves original route?) more tho. Still well worth the 3stars. |
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| Si dH | 5 Jun, 2005 |
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βeta: ok repeated this yesterday and yes, the crux is well-protected. Must have had blinkers on the first timeI did it I guess. Getting stood in the break from where you place the gear is bold, though. Love the route. | βeta? | |
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βeta: ok repeated this yesterday and yes, the crux is well-protected. Must have had blinkers on the first timeI did it I guess. Getting stood in the break from where you place the gear is bold, though. Love the route. |
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| Simon Caldwell | 4 Dec, 2004 |
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βeta: That wasn't me, it was SidH. | βeta? | |
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βeta: That wasn't me, it was SidH. |
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| Andrew Barker | 3 Dec, 2004 |
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βeta: Good route, sketchy solo! I started in the little cave on the left and pulled through the right side of it onto the left side of the slab. Followed the left side of the buttress the whole way - it all makes a good variation | βeta? | |
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βeta: Good route, sketchy solo! I started in the little cave on the left and pulled through the right side of it onto the left side of the slab. Followed the left side of the buttress the whole way - it all makes a good variation |
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| Simon Caldwell | 2 Dec, 2004 |
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βeta: "you're all wrong"? Apart from everyone who said there was good gear. And you don't seem to have noticed the good no 6 nut placement - just because you didn't find it doesn't mean it's not there ;-) | βeta? | |
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βeta: "you're all wrong"? Apart from everyone who said there was good gear. And you don't seem to have noticed the good no 6 nut placement - just because you didn't find it doesn't mean it's not there ;-) |
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| LakesWinter | 1 Dec, 2004 |
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βeta: Sid, you can get a good number 6 nut in the cam slot on the left just before the crux, you can also get a 1.5 sized cam next to this. The bottom is bold but the crux is well protected | ||
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βeta: Sid, you can get a good number 6 nut in the cam slot on the left just before the crux, you can also get a 1.5 sized cam next to this. The bottom is bold but the crux is well protected |
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| Simon Caldwell | 1 Dec, 2004 |
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βeta: The bomber nut placement at the crux is to the left of centre IIRC. | βeta? | |
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βeta: The bomber nut placement at the crux is to the left of centre IIRC. |
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| Si dH | 1 Dec, 2004 |
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βeta: Simon Caldwell: The sideways nut placement mentioned above (by woker I believe) is complete crap, would not hold anything and is micro-nut size anyway (number 1 wallnut considerably too big). I could have done with a 1.5 cam but didnt have one, the 1 went in, albeit a bit undercammed. Where is your bomber nut? There could be placements over on the far right in the big break you stand in to place the cam, but I didn't go looking over there, its off route and I didn't fancy traversing anyway. If you start up the right hand-side at the bottom Im sure you can get gear in lower down, on the left-hand side (the original route) there is one very dodgy looking placement for a number 1 cam which i decided wasnt worth it at the time - a good job since if Id placed it Id have had nothing at all for the crux. | ||
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βeta: Simon Caldwell: The sideways nut placement mentioned above (by woker I believe) is complete crap, would not hold anything and is micro-nut size anyway (number 1 wallnut considerably too big). I could have done with a 1.5 cam but didnt have one, the 1 went in, albeit a bit undercammed. Where is your bomber nut? There could be placements over on the far right in the big break you stand in to place the cam, but I didn't go looking over there, its off route and I didn't fancy traversing anyway. If you start up the right hand-side at the bottom Im sure you can get gear in lower down, on the left-hand side (the original route) there is one very dodgy looking placement for a number 1 cam which i decided wasnt worth it at the time - a good job since if Id placed it Id have had nothing at all for the crux. |
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| Furzy Sleight | 30 Nov, 2004 |
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βeta: This is a truly great grit VS that held a lot of fear for me as a good friend took a very serious ground fall from the crux. It is however a great solo as well | βeta? | |
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βeta: This is a truly great grit VS that held a lot of fear for me as a good friend took a very serious ground fall from the crux. It is however a great solo as well |
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| Simon Caldwell | 29 Nov, 2004 |
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βeta: SidH, I'm afraid you're wrong and everyone else is right. Being a natural coward, I usually place both the bomber nut and a 'just in case' cam for the crux. The rest has adequate protection, though sometimes it's below your feet. | βeta? | |
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βeta: SidH, I'm afraid you're wrong and everyone else is right. Being a natural coward, I usually place both the bomber nut and a 'just in case' cam for the crux. The rest has adequate protection, though sometimes it's below your feet. |
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| Mr Pink 2 | 29 Nov, 2004 |
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βeta: I'm afraid not old boy. I put at least 2 nuts, and 2 friends in at the crux. The bottom is bold, but relatively easy. Anyway, a brilliant route - I don't see any reason why it wouldn't make a good (and memorable) first VS, as long as you've got the right gear. | βeta? | |
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βeta: I'm afraid not old boy. I put at least 2 nuts, and 2 friends in at the crux. The bottom is bold, but relatively easy. Anyway, a brilliant route - I don't see any reason why it wouldn't make a good (and memorable) first VS, as long as you've got the right gear. |
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| Si dH | 13 Nov, 2004 |
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βeta: Oh and after reading the above comments, I can confirm to anyone wanting to lead this route that they are bollocks. I saw three other peole lead this today and while the ones doing the right-hand start got something in lower down, no-one had more than one cam for the crux. three nuts is a load of rubbish, expect to be scared if VS is your limit. High in the grade IMO. | βeta? | |
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βeta: Oh and after reading the above comments, I can confirm to anyone wanting to lead this route that they are bollocks. I saw three other peole lead this today and while the ones doing the right-hand start got something in lower down, no-one had more than one cam for the crux. three nuts is a load of rubbish, expect to be scared if VS is your limit. High in the grade IMO. |
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| Si dH | 13 Nov, 2004 |
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βeta: Well I heard it was not too well protected - but I didnt know I would be soloing the first 12 or 13m, then just have one dodgy cam for the crux. Pretty scary, but a great route, one of the best. | βeta? | |
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βeta: Well I heard it was not too well protected - but I didnt know I would be soloing the first 12 or 13m, then just have one dodgy cam for the crux. Pretty scary, but a great route, one of the best. |
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| Simon Caldwell | 11 Aug, 2003 |
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βeta: Mark, I don't think routes are awarded stars according to how easy or difficult they are, that's what the grade is for. If you're just pushing VS, or are crap at slabs, this isn't easy. | βeta? | |
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βeta: Mark, I don't think routes are awarded stars according to how easy or difficult they are, that's what the grade is for. If you're just pushing VS, or are crap at slabs, this isn't easy. |
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| Jon Greengrass | 20 Mar, 2003 |
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βeta: Bold??? what a well protected route if you've got a full set of cams, The moves are easy 4c if you're used to grit slabs, one to add to my solo list. | βeta? | |
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βeta: Bold??? what a well protected route if you've got a full set of cams, The moves are easy 4c if you're used to grit slabs, one to add to my solo list. |
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| gav p | 15 Sep, 2002 |
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βeta: Brilliant route. Reachy moves to start, followed by good friend 1.5 placement. Tenuous moves on the slabby central section; the crux seems almost undo-able at first due to the poor nature of the holds, but just lean in, commit to the balancy mantel and trust your feet, and it feels brilliant and easier than it looks. The angle of the slab is in your favour. The upper section is a romp. You have to work for your gear (almost exclusively cams - so take a decent selection), but you can get good, if well spaced placements. Felt high in the grade, and definitely not a first VS. | βeta? | |
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βeta: Brilliant route. Reachy moves to start, followed by good friend 1.5 placement. Tenuous moves on the slabby central section; the crux seems almost undo-able at first due to the poor nature of the holds, but just lean in, commit to the balancy mantel and trust your feet, and it feels brilliant and easier than it looks. The angle of the slab is in your favour. The upper section is a romp. You have to work for your gear (almost exclusively cams - so take a decent selection), but you can get good, if well spaced placements. Felt high in the grade, and definitely not a first VS. |
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| Robo | 30 Jun, 2002 |
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βeta: Found this easy, apart from the start. The gear is good enough where you need it, and top is a fantastic run-out. If you like that sort of thing. | βeta? | |
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βeta: Found this easy, apart from the start. The gear is good enough where you need it, and top is a fantastic run-out. If you like that sort of thing. |
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| london_huddy | 15 Jun, 2002 |
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βeta: Fantastic route! Solid at the grade, plenty of gear where you need it and a great introduction to proper grit slabs. | βeta? | |
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βeta: Fantastic route! Solid at the grade, plenty of gear where you need it and a great introduction to proper grit slabs. |
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| Paul Boardman | 25 Apr, 2002 |
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βeta: I found this quite hard for a VS! That mantleshelf is quite unnervng! But it's bommer protection & easy afterwards. A fantastic route! | βeta? | |
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βeta: I found this quite hard for a VS! That mantleshelf is quite unnervng! But it's bommer protection & easy afterwards. A fantastic route! |
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| Horse | 11 Apr, 2002 |
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βeta: Surely one of the best VS routes on grit, which is high praise and still somewhat bold especially if pushing the grade. | βeta? | |
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βeta: Surely one of the best VS routes on grit, which is high praise and still somewhat bold especially if pushing the grade. |
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