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July 2018 - Major rockfall affects Lost World/Mordor areas. In recent years there have been significant and massive rockfalls (hundreds if not thousands of tons of rock)  in this area, and in early July another significant rockfall occured here, that would have wiped out anyone in this area at the time. There is further significant and unpredictable rockfall likley here and it would be prudent to avoid this area. 

The Upper Dinorwig quarries are mainly owned by First Hydro. Access for climbing or any access away from the designated footpaths is not permitted by the landowners, due to liability concerns. However it's rare for climbers to be asked to leave and in general it appears that if climbers keep a low profile, avoid damaging fences, do not interfere with any of the power station buildings or apparatus or any of the historic structures within the quarry that climbing is possible. Access to the whole of the upper quarries have become especially sensitive in recent years and climbers should not gather in large numbers, especially at Dali's Hole area. Bolts have been removed from Dali's Hole by a local climber (late 2010) who was concerned that continued use of this venue by large groups of climbers would jeopardise access to the whole site. There have also been a number of reported altercations between climbers and First Hydro security staff over the years at this venue.

BMC advice remains unchanged - the landowners do not give permission for public access (including for climbing) away from the public paths. Please do not damage fences or signs and if accosted by security staff, please be courteous and report any issues to the BMC.

Seasonal Restrictions

Reason: Nesting Birds

A fence has been errected across the base of the Dali's Hole area to deter access to this area due to liability concerns by First Hydro. Access to this area is especially sensitive at this time and security staff have been reported to be asking climbers to leave this area.

160m, 6 pitches.

Rockfax Description
A long mid-grade, multi-pitch sport route that starts at the bottom of Twll Mawr.
1) 6b, 20m. The first pitch of Rock Bottom Line. Climb the slab in the corner with some bridging. From the ninth bolt carefully traverse right avoiding the scree ledge to a bolt belay, then walk right 10m to anchors.
2) 6a+, 30m. Climb slabs and faint grooves to a shallow blocky niche at 10m. Step right and continue to a ledge. Climb the wall on the left via thin/friable holds to an awkward step onto another ledge. Continue up the wall above between two flakes to a stance at the foot of a slanting ramp.
3) 6c+, 35m. Climb the rib and wall on the left to a shallow niche. Exit this with difficulty to gain a shallow groove on the left. Gain the ledge above the smooth part of the next wall by a dogleg right then back left. Continue up using a sharp rock fang on the right, then climb a shallow rib with sloping ledges. From the highest ledge, step left into a finger-crack. Mantel out of it and climb the short groove above to the stance.
4) 6b, 15m. Gain ledges on the left and climb grooves above to an awkward exit onto a sloping shelf at the base of a recess. Climb the right corner of the recess for a few metres, step left onto the back wall and climb it, passing a couple of ledges with difficulty. Gain a groove which leads to a large horizontal ledge. There is a belay about 3m left.
5) 3c, 8m. Walk about 5m right along the ledge to the fault-line of Hamadryad. Continue right and up to the stance. There are no bolts on this pitch.
6) 6a+, 20m. Climb the corner above the stance awkwardly. Continue up the rib to a ledge below the final steepening. Step left to regain the arete, then move back round to its right side for a final awkward exit onto the sloping ledge above. © Rockfax

UKC Logbook Description
There is a dispute between the first ascensionists about the name (perhaps see elsewhere on UKC?) hence the dual name at present.

A long mid-grade, multi-pitch sport route that starts at the bottom of Twll Mawr. Now the 2nd longest sport climb in the UK. It follows Rock Bottom Line for one pitch then breaks out R to climb slabs and walls between Opening Gambit and Hamadryad. Finally it crosses Hamadryad to finish up the rib on its R. The climbing is continually interesting but there are areas of friable holds on p2 and p3. The most sustained sequences are on p2 and p3 but the more broken-looking ground above actually gives good puzzling moves on rock that is substantially more difficult than appearances suggest. All pitches are fully bolted and the stances have 2-bolt belays.
1) 30 m, 6b (9BR): P1 of Rock Bottom Line.
Then walk R 10 m across the top of the ledge to the anchors at the foot of P2.
2) 33 m, 6a+ (14 BR): Climb slabs and faint grooves to a shallow blocky niche at 10 m. Step R and continue to a ledge. Climb the wall on the L on small holds (some friable) and make an awkward step on to another ledge (there is a variant further right - lone bolt - that is now redundant). Continue up the wall above between two flakes to a stance at the foot of a R slanting ramp.
3) 38 m, 6c+ (14 BR): Climb the rib and wall on the L to a shallow niche. Exit this with difficulty to gain a shallow groove on the L that is followed to ledges on Taith Mawr. Gain the ledge above the smooth part of the next wall by a dogleg R then back L. Continue up using a sharp rock fang on the R and climb a shallow rib with sloping ledges. From the highest ledge step L into a finger crack. Mantle out of it and climb the short groove above to the stance.
4) 27 m, 6b (8 BR): Gain ledges on the L. Climb grooves above to an awkward exit onto a sloping shelf at the base of a recess. Climb the R corner of the recess for a few m, step L onto the back wall and climb it, passing a couple of ledges with difficulty, to gain a groove which leads to a large horizontal ledge. There is a belay about 3 m L (placed to be out of view from Hamadryad)
5) 8 m, easy: Walk about 5 m R along the ledge to the fault line of Hamadryad. Continue R and up to the stance. (No bolts but easy ground. P5 could be joined to p4 but there may then be difficulty with the rope running over a sharp edge. This can be avoided with the belay on the L if the leader stands close to the point of exit.)
6) 25 m, 6a+ (6 BR) Climb the corner above the stance awkwardly. Continue up the rib to a ledge below the final steepening. Step L to regain the arete then move back round to its R side for a final awkward exit onto the sloping ledge above.
Walk down as for Smaug (best) or abseil off.
WARNING: WOULD NOT RECOMMEND HAVING MULTIPLE TEAMS ON THIS ROUTE AT ANY ONE TIME DUE TO THE LOOSE NATURE OF THE ROCK (NO DOUBT THIS WILL IMPROVE WITH TRAFFIC). ALSO TAKE CARE WITH ROPES OVER THE SQUARE CUT EDGES AND LEDGES.

C. Struthers, H. Walmsley 27/Mar/2015.

Ticklists

Dinorwic Slate - Multi Pitch Sport Climbs , All the Llanberis SLATE sport @ 6c & 6c+ , The Longest Sport Routes in the UK , Twll Mawr Big Wall 1000 Metre Challenge! , All multi-pitch sport routes (England and Wales)

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franhammond92 30 Mar Show βeta
βeta: Several loose bolts on P1, hand-tightened but someone should take a spanner with them
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βeta: Several loose bolts on P1, hand-tightened but someone should take a spanner with them
miriamd 30 Mar Show βeta
βeta: An enjoyable route at 6b A0 with a pull on the draw at the crux move - no other moves on route harder than this.
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βeta: An enjoyable route at 6b A0 with a pull on the draw at the crux move - no other moves on route harder than this.
gowain 12 Nov, 2023 Show βeta
βeta: Damaged bolt on p1 - needs replacing? Missing hangar early on p2.
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βeta: Damaged bolt on p1 - needs replacing? Missing hangar early on p2.

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