2 pitches.

Rockfax Description
The final classic and the best. The first pitch is nicely intricate and the second is a stupendous jug-haul in a situation normally reserved for routes around three grades harder. The grade is deceptive. Those with long arms may find it easier than 5a, and those who tire quickly may find it harder than VS!
1) 4b, 20m. Climb the slim groove to its top, then pull slightly right onto the steep wall which leads to a large grassy ledge.
2) 5a, 23m. Pull up left on good spike holds then make a long move to good holds. Get some gear in, or move quickly up and right if you are tired, where the gear is easier to place. Climb up and left on magnificent holds to finish up a corner. © Rockfax

UKC Logbook Description
A steep and imposing 2 pitch route straight from the start. Thrilling and exciting. Not for the faint hearted or new to leading VS grades. Good gear all the way. Belay on blocks at the top and possible abseil off.

2 distinct top pitches.The 4b goes up a short wall and then leftwards up a ramp passing flakes to treach base of a shallow chimney. The alternative 5a top pitch works left behind the large flakes before moving back right to join at base of the chimney.

Ticklists

100 More Classic British VS Climbs , North Wales Rock Graded List , North Wales 100 Classic Climbs , ROCKFAX - Top 50 North Wales Climbs , North wales road to ruins HVS , The best the UK has to offer for mere mortals (apart from the lakes cos its always wet) , 100 Best Wales Mid Grade Climbs , Glyn's North Wales mid-grade ticklist , George's Ultimate Easy to Mid-Grade North Wales Trad Ticklist , Libby Peter's VS Hit List , 2020/21 Trips , Hard Rock & Other Classics , ROCKFAX TOP 50s upto e3 , Consolidation VS-HVS , Emlyn price outdoors, Routes in the spotlight , 3 Star - North Wales HS - HVS

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cymjt 4 Aug, 2023 Show βeta
βeta: Abseil station tidied up and replaced - Aug 2023. Now pulls easily and shouldn't get stuck.
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βeta: Abseil station tidied up and replaced - Aug 2023. Now pulls easily and shouldn't get stuck.
mmd 19 May, 2023 Show βeta
βeta: You need to be going well to lead the top pitch if your just a VS leader. I would say unless your good on 5a and steep pitches leave this one. It feels quite run out from large spike on 2nd pitch to where it eases off and next set of good gear is. Top pitch is in a great position
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βeta: You need to be going well to lead the top pitch if your just a VS leader. I would say unless your good on 5a and steep pitches leave this one. It feels quite run out from large spike on 2nd pitch to where it eases off and next set of good gear is. Top pitch is in a great position
EA_Mountain_Skills 8 Feb, 2023 Show βeta
βeta: Amazing top pitch weaving back & forward to create a VS line. 5a for second pitch in my guide. Some exposed moves on it. Memorable.
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βeta: Amazing top pitch weaving back & forward to create a VS line. 5a for second pitch in my guide. Some exposed moves on it. Memorable.
spidey 3 Aug, 2020 Show βeta
βeta: Led second pitch, think I missed some gear as it felt pretty bold. Good line but not as good as fraticide wall.
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βeta: Led second pitch, think I missed some gear as it felt pretty bold. Good line but not as good as fraticide wall.
Peter271263 9 May, 2019 Show βeta
βeta: Second pitch felt like 5a.
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βeta: Second pitch felt like 5a.

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One Step in the Clouds

Grade: VS 4c ***
(Craig Bwlch y Moch (Tremadog))

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