24m.

Rockfax Description
A wandering classic. Head up the unprotected 'question-mark' slab to its top left-hand corner. The undercut groove here is tricky to enter (good gear) and leads to an exposed slab. Head right to a ledge and a finish on jugs. Walk off right or finish up the short wall behind to reach the cliff top and the moor. © Rockfax

FA. Fergus Graham 1922.

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MattyDredge 27 Aug, 2022 Show βeta
βeta: Polished but still grippy enough.
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βeta: Polished but still grippy enough.
PaulJepson 3 Apr, 2022 Show βeta
βeta: 'Unprotected slab' has plenty enough gear if you have cams.
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βeta: 'Unprotected slab' has plenty enough gear if you have cams.
Lsuze 2 Aug, 2021 Show βeta
βeta: Not sure what the comments are on about RE polished - absolutely fine, super grippy
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βeta: Not sure what the comments are on about RE polished - absolutely fine, super grippy
ulastopka 15 May, 2020 Show βeta
βeta: Enjoyed the slab very much.
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βeta: Enjoyed the slab very much.
springfall2008 1 Sep, 2019 Show βeta
βeta: The slab allows for at least one nut and a cam Getting very polished in the groove Tricky mantle but on big jugs
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βeta: The slab allows for at least one nut and a cam Getting very polished in the groove Tricky mantle but on big jugs
SuePearson 31 May, 2019 Show βeta
βeta: Failed to lead to the top bit -need to lose a few kgs. Scary for VD
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βeta: Failed to lead to the top bit -need to lose a few kgs. Scary for VD
aztec_bums 22 Jun, 2006 Show βeta
βeta: bloody polised as f**k but definately 3 stars first ever lead with a strange top out great fun
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βeta: bloody polised as f**k but definately 3 stars first ever lead with a strange top out great fun
VS4b 6 Jun, 2005 Show βeta
βeta: Excellent route. HVD for my money, the slab is not unprotected as you can put friends and even a nut in if you look hard enough. Move up off the slab is interesting and harder than VDiff IMHO. Very worthwhile.
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βeta: Excellent route. HVD for my money, the slab is not unprotected as you can put friends and even a nut in if you look hard enough. Move up off the slab is interesting and harder than VDiff IMHO. Very worthwhile.
Sam and will 14 Mar, 2005 Show βeta
βeta: great route, i was about 10 wen i did this a few yrs back and coming up the overhang wen ur 10 is brilliant, hope to do flying butress direct this yr!
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βeta: great route, i was about 10 wen i did this a few yrs back and coming up the overhang wen ur 10 is brilliant, hope to do flying butress direct this yr!
Si dH 22 Jul, 2004 Show βeta
βeta: Slab is unprotected, and the crux, altho easy, is harder than anything on most vdiffs, so Id say HVD is ok - the first time i ever went climbing i was seconding this and stood on the ledge under the crux getting pumped for 20 minutes, then got lowered off. Went back today to exorcise the demons and did the whole route in 5 minutes. Amazing what a bit of practice can do...
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βeta: Slab is unprotected, and the crux, altho easy, is harder than anything on most vdiffs, so Id say HVD is ok - the first time i ever went climbing i was seconding this and stood on the ledge under the crux getting pumped for 20 minutes, then got lowered off. Went back today to exorcise the demons and did the whole route in 5 minutes. Amazing what a bit of practice can do...
Nutkey 31 May, 2004 Show βeta
βeta: Did a good selection of VDiffs at the weekend for my first leads, and then tried Flying Buttress. Found it gave me just the right amount of extra buzz over the VDiffs. Easy HVD, but not VD. Not sure the slab is unprotected - it looked like a cam would go in a couple of pockets. Didn't try though - the slab is a doddle, doesn't matter at all that it's unprotected.
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βeta: Did a good selection of VDiffs at the weekend for my first leads, and then tried Flying Buttress. Found it gave me just the right amount of extra buzz over the VDiffs. Easy HVD, but not VD. Not sure the slab is unprotected - it looked like a cam would go in a couple of pockets. Didn't try though - the slab is a doddle, doesn't matter at all that it's unprotected.
victim of mathematics 9 Apr, 2004 Show βeta
βeta: A bit of a soft touch HVD? only one hard move and that's stupidly well protected and not really that hard.
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βeta: A bit of a soft touch HVD? only one hard move and that's stupidly well protected and not really that hard.

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Grade: HVD 4a ***
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