/ Norrie Muir RIP

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paraffin on 17 Apr 2019

Very sad news.

Norrie Muir has passed away. I have no more details other than his funeral will be at Clydebank Crematorium, Dalnottar. 15:30 hrs Thursday 25 April.

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subtle on 17 Apr 2019
In reply to paraffin:

Very sad news indeed, an icon in scottish climbing - and his acerbic wit has been sadly missed on here these last few years.

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leon 1 on 17 Apr 2019
In reply to paraffin: RIP Norrie. A great climber of some magnificent routes and a very funny man. Condolences to his family and many friends and acquaintances.

For those too young to know 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norrie_Muir

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Euge - on 17 Apr 2019
In reply to paraffin:

That is sad news... he was quite vocal on this site a few years ago and I always enjoyed his stories, especially his solo of Centurion on The Ben...

RIP Norrie

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Pursued by a bear - on 17 Apr 2019
In reply to paraffin:

His contributions to this site enlivened it greatly.  Sorry to hear that he's no longer with us, but the memory of him shall remain.

T.

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Eric9Points - on 17 Apr 2019
In reply to paraffin:

That's a shock, he couldn't have been that old.

Sorry to hear that.

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Darren Jackson - on 17 Apr 2019
In reply to paraffin:

RIP Norrie... He's left a great legacy in his routes, and he was always good value on these forums.

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Deleted bagger - on 17 Apr 2019
In reply to paraffin:

Sad news. There's some footage of him climbing on the Cobbler in winter on Utube somewhere.

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bouldery bits - on 17 Apr 2019
In reply to paraffin:

Sad news indeed.

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streapadair - on 17 Apr 2019
In reply to Deleted bagger:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13bfbBED3Jc

Norrie with the tache, Arthur the fresh-faced youth.

Sorry to hear the news. Norrie was the stuff of legends.

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Captain Solo on 17 Apr 2019
In reply to Deleted bagger:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13bfbBED3Jc

Sad to hear this, he was a character indeed. I was lucky to spend a wee climbing trip with him up in the NW about ten years ago. I remember sorting the gear for a winter attempt on East Buttress on Beinn Eighe and asked him how many quickdraws he wanted to take. He suggested three would be enough. He still had that woolly orange balaclava in place of a helmet. All the best Norrie.

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Heike - on 17 Apr 2019
In reply to paraffin:

I am really sad to hear this. He was a great guy.

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Trangia on 17 Apr 2019
In reply to paraffin:

Very sad news. I was sorry when he stopped posting on this forum a few years back

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abr1966 - on 17 Apr 2019
In reply to paraffin:

RIP Norrie.....never met him, crossed swords on here a few times with him but huge respect to him and his generation of climbers.

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toad - on 17 Apr 2019
In reply to paraffin:

Not sure i always appreciated his posting, but he definitely added to the forums

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65 - on 17 Apr 2019
In reply to paraffin:

Davie

Really saddened to hear this. The forums were poorer for his absence, and now Scottish climbing is that wee bit less entertaining and special as well. Sincere condolences to his family and the CDMC.

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paraffin on 17 Apr 2019
In reply to 65:

Thank you 65 and everyone else for your kind comments. I have posted a link to this UKC thread into the Creag Dhu MC Members private Facebook page. So all your comments will be appreciated by his close friends, family and fellow members. Thank you.

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Minneconjou Sioux on 18 Apr 2019
In reply to paraffin:

He was a legend on this forum back in the day. Always knew never to engage in forum combat with Norrie. He was certainly one of the few who could walk the talk.

RIP - sad news indeed.

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The Lemming - on 18 Apr 2019
In reply to paraffin:

I too wish to offer my condolences to Norrie's family.

The site was never boring when Norrie was about.

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The New NickB - on 18 Apr 2019
In reply to Eric9Points:

71 according to Wikipedia. As others have said a great contribution to Scottish climbing and for a time he certainly enlivened these forums with his robust posting style.

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Dogwatch - on 18 Apr 2019

I enjoyed his forum contributions, the information and the dry wit. Perhaps he didn't suffer gladly those he took for fools but I found if you treated him with respect he was fine with those with different opinions to his own. RIP Norrie.

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L Andy 1902 on 18 Apr 2019
In reply to paraffin:

Naughty. See https://www.ukclimbing.com/user/profile.php?id=13126

UKC was good in the old days, the forums are missing something now.

RIP Norrie

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ScraggyGoat on 18 Apr 2019

Norrie certainly enlivened these forums, and always gave good advice, packaged in his own style. 

It would be nice if the UKC editorial team rose to the occasion and published/sought an Obituary.

I remember him mentioning he still had one new route on the Ben he wanted to do, I hope he managed it. 

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johncoxmysteriously - on 18 Apr 2019
In reply to paraffin:

Sad news. Didn’t know him personally but a valued contributor on here and of course to Scottish climbing.

Imagine the chutzpah to solo Centurion in 1971. Chapeau, and RIP.

jcm

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Grahame N - on 18 Apr 2019
In reply to ScraggyGoat:

> Norrie certainly enlivened these forums, and always gave good advice, packaged in his own style. 

> It would be nice if the UKC editorial team rose to the occasion and published/sought an Obituary.

Sad news, and yes it would be great if UKC (Natalie where are you?) could look through Norrie's posts and put together some of his gems, for us to re-live.

I remember being at the CIC one weekend early 80's and Norrie and some mates turned up (not booked of course). All they had to eat was a sack of spuds and a big bottle of cooking oil with which they made chips.

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Humphrey Jungle - on 18 Apr 2019
In reply to Grahame N:

Very sad. As someone said an elder statesman who did not suffer fools gladly.

Always used to open the popcorn and pull up a chair when some young whippersnapper decided to take him on.

RIP.

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OMR - on 18 Apr 2019
In reply to paraffin:

Ach, sorry to hear that. Never met but he made several kind comments over the years on my blog, which rather belied the formidable reputation he seems to have had on this forum. One of the good guys I suspect. (And loved the post above about the three quickdraws!)

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L Andy 1902 on 18 Apr 2019
In reply to Andy 1902:

The link details have been changed. Thank you.

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Roadrunner6 - on 18 Apr 2019
In reply to paraffin:

That's sad, he was 71? He looked spritely the one time I met him but that was 15 years ago. The old Glasgow effect holds even for someone who was active and fit. 

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Peter Walker on 18 Apr 2019

Very sad. Always seemed to end any exchange with him on the forums both gently ribbed and better informed.

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paraffin on 18 Apr 2019
In reply to Grahame N:

Natalie Berry did a good article on fellow CDMC member John Cullen. 

From knowing Norrie personally for over 43 years I do not think anyone could or should capture the essence of Norrie. Also In a strange way Norrie actively discouraged publicity around his and fellow CDMC members exploits. 

In his own well used words, “Naw, naw, naw.”

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Tom Last - on 18 Apr 2019
In reply to paraffin:

Ah, sad to hear this. He was a great presence on here; funny, experienced, acerbic. I’d always hoped he might make it back to this fold.

RIP Norrie. 

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Colin Moody - on 18 Apr 2019
In reply to Euge:

> That is sad news...  his solo of Centurion on The Ben...

 I first met him on the Cobbler 43 years ago, he led me up a few routes but only placed a couple of runners that day.

I was surprised to see he got sewing machine leg like the rest of us!

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Marc C - on 11:13 Fri
In reply to paraffin: Sad news I enjoyed Norrie's acerbic yet witty laconicism. 

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nufkin - on 11:56 Fri
In reply to Peter Walker:

>  Always seemed to end any exchange with him on the forums both gently ribbed and better informed

I shall always remember him for teaching me what the emoticon is for a bared arse

( x )

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michaelb1 - on 14:31 Fri
In reply to paraffin:

I enjoyed reading his comments on here over the years. Never realised what a good climber he was until I read the Ken Crocket Nevis book. The only one of Norrie's routes I've done is fawlty towers, which he would have probably regarded as very small beer, but exciting enough for me. 

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JimR - on 15:00 Fri
In reply to michaelb1:

That’s a shocker! First met Norrie at th bottom of the etive slabs in the mid 70s, this place was the poorer for his absence. Sympathies to his family and friends 

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fmck - on 20:51 Fri
In reply to nufkin:

That was good and one I missed! 

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Deadeye - on 21:17 Fri
In reply to paraffin:

: (

That's a real shame - he was a goldmine of information and advice.

Sadly missed.

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Doghouse - on 18:35 Sat
In reply to paraffin:

Never met Norrie but really enjoyed his posts on here. A sad loss.

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clampton - on 18:50 Sat
In reply to paraffin:

> Natalie Berry did a good article on fellow CDMC member John Cullen. 

> From knowing Norrie personally for over 43 years I do not think anyone could or should capture the essence of Norrie. Also In a strange way Norrie actively discouraged publicity around his and fellow CDMC members exploits. 

> In his own well used words, “Naw, naw, naw.”

Spot on Davie 

Colin 

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Mike-W-99 on 19:36 Sat
In reply to paraffin:

  Norrie found his way to the Scottishhills website. Posted the occasional gem and seemed a bit more relaxed.

http://www.scottishhills.com/html/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=8688

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Mick Ward - on 16:20 Tue
In reply to paraffin:

Norrie Muir was the person with whom I most wish I’d climbed. Sure, he’d have burned me off and taken the piss out of me. But it wouldn’t have mattered, would have just been part of the game. Afterwards we’d have shared a few bevvies, talked about this and that.

People rightly remember him from these forums. Cyberspace being what it is, it’s temptingly easy to forget what a fearsome climber he was, back in the real world. Once, on here, some fool scornfully muttered, “What’s Norrie ever done?” The reply was withering. “Open a winter guidebook to the Ben - at any page!”

There must be a legion of Norrie stories. I remember him once nonchalantly mentioning having soloed the Rasp – onsight, naturally. A very bold thing to do, back then, before climbing walls allowed people to develop power and fitness. He didn’t climb much on grit and I’m guessing he wouldn’t have known about the knee bars and the head-jam. He reckoned that climbing down wasn’t really an option, so upwards it had to be.

An attempt at the first British solo of the North Face of the Eiger certainly upped the boldness stakes. He made swift progress until the weather crapped out. Descended, then realised that the weather was starting to improve. (In those days, weather forecasting was primitive, compared to what it is now.)

What to do? Go back up, already a bit knackered, on such a long and demanding route?  Or have the self-discipline to walk away? Norrie made the hard – but correct – decision, however heartbreaking.

Back in fairytale world (oops, cyberspace), he delighted in playing the role of the curmudgeonly old git, shooing off the whippersnappers. Occasionally though, you’d glimpse the kindness and decency lurking behind his gruffness. I always dreaded him ripping me to shreds – and he could so easily have done. But, if anything, he seemed genially amused.  

He once let slip that he was a wee bit proud of Silver Tear. (I just thought it was a great name!) Maybe a route like that says what matters about a man like Norrie.

Mick

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Offwidth - on 16:35 Tue
In reply to Mick Ward:

I thought he got banned rather than leaving. He was great fun and very knowledgeable and had an amazing climbing CV.  Although I enjoyed the challenge of the odd bit of virtual sparing it was when posters were clueless about him that the black comedy sparks would really fly. Really sad news.

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paraffin on 21:23 Tue
In reply to Mike-W-99:

>   Norrie found his way to the Scottishhills website. Posted the occasional gem and seemed a bit more relaxed.

Mike W  - that is an interesting article. Interesting in that Norrie attempted to remain anonymous, yet got outed twice on Scottishhills.com. 

Norrie is having the last laugh with me because just when I thought I knew him something like this article pops up. Really just sums up Norrie’s multi-faceted and contradictory character for me.

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Eric9Points - on 21:36 Tue
In reply to Offwidth:

I thought so too.

I remember reading that he'd posted a link to a photo of a man making love to a dog upon which he'd pasted Sloper's head.

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paraffin on 21:44 Tue
In reply to Mick Ward:

Mike that is a great post, thank you.

Anyone who could circumvent Norrie’s and the CDMC’s rigid non-publicity policy did well.

Norrie’s solo efforts were never quite so straightforward or without incident.

There was his solo attempt on Coffin Corner, Craig Y Barns, Dunkeld involving the use of his leather trouser belt and buckle followed by the calling out of the Fire Brigade and deployment of ladders.

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Dave Hewitt - on 23:15 Tue
In reply to Mick Ward:

> Occasionally though, you’d glimpse the kindness and decency lurking behind his gruffness.

That was my experience of Norrie - I think we met briefly at a funeral years ago, but my main contact with him came through correspondence concerning his completion of various hill lists. As well as the hard climbing he also clearly just loved being out, and over time he worked his way round several of the main Scottish lists: Munros (finished on Bynack More, 18 June 1988), Corbetts (Clisham, 14 June 1997) and Grahams (Stob na Cruaiche, August 2014). Unsurprisingly his first Corbett was the Cobbler (25 September 1966), although his first Graham - not that Grahams existed at the time - had been Ben Venue in 1961.

In correspondence he was a pleasant mix of polite, modest, quite formal and helpfully informative. Above all, a love of the hills came through. I asked whether he had a good day for his 1997 Clisham ascent, and he wrote back saying that yes he did and there were only two Corbetts on which he hadn't had a view from the top - Binnein an Fhidheir and Beinn an Oir, adding  "I intend to go back and get a view sometime". That was in October 2008, and I very much hope that in the subsequent decade he did indeed go back and get those views.

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