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If I want to park for a few days climbing (Shelterstone, Hell's Lum etc) where is it best to leave the car? Can I Park at the ski centre or do I have to go elsewhere. Needless to say I don't want to pay any money for the privilege.

In reply to Frank the Husky:

At home?

In reply to Frank the Husky:

Not sure why your post has drawn dislikes. Ski centre is fine.

In reply to DaveHK:

The arrogant tone in which it’s written?

In reply to Graeme G:

I'm not getting that. 

In reply to DaveHK:

Nor am I. A sad day if trying to save money is now something to be frowned upon in the climbing world.

In reply to Graeme G: you’ll have to explain to me why my post is arrogant. Call me a cheapskate by all means, but calling me arrogant is an interesting leap to make!

In reply to DaveHK: thanks Dave, that’s all I needed. Much appreciated.

In reply to Frank the Husky:

There is a voluntary donation of £2 suggested at the ski carpark which they claim is used for environmental work.

https://www.cairngormmountain.co.uk/plan-your-visit/parking-at-cairngorm/

In reply to Frank the Husky:

I don't speak for Graeme G but I suspect its "Needless to say I don't want to pay any money for the privilege."

Presumably you want other people to pay to fund the existence of the car park that you don't want to pay for. That might be it.

In reply to Andy Johnson:

There is nothing in the OP which suggests he wants to use a carpark with charges but not pay them. It seems fair enough that those actually using a car park fund it. 

In reply to Andy Johnson:

Don't be opening the Cairngorm carpark etc can of worms, there's way, way more to that than a straightforward payment for parking covers maintenance of the carpark equation!

In reply to Andy Johnson:

So many people reading so many things into my post. I'd rather park somewhere I don't have to pay because that's the sort of awful person I am, especially if I'll be away from the car for a few days. If I have to park in a car park and pay then that's fine. Hopefully that makes me less dreadful in your eyes.

In reply to Frank the Husky:

If your team is playing away at Everton, the parking usually has a minder, who if you slip them a few quid, they insure you car won't catch fire!

In reply to Frank the Husky:

You're depriving Scotland of much needed revenue. We need a certain resident of Edinburgh to demonstrate how you're an agent of the English/Tory/Brexit plot to plunder Scotland.

In reply to Frank the Husky:

I didn’t say you’re arrogant. I felt the tone of your post was. It reads as arrogant to me, if you don’t agree, as others do, then fair enough. My reply was by way of a possible explanation for the dislikes. I’m not going to try and give you a literacy lesson. 

In reply to Graeme G:

Why? 

In reply to Robert Durran:

“Needless to say I don't want to pay any money for the privilege.”

Happy for others to read it otherwise.

In reply to Graeme G:

Yes, but why do you find the tone arrogant?  

You've just repeated what he posted!

In reply to Robert Durran:

Can we just let it go? I appreciate you don’t agree, and fully respect that. I was merely trying to answer someone else’s question. Beginning to wish I hadn’t bothered 😕 

In reply to Graeme G:

Ok. I was just genuinely baffled by the arrogance thing. 

I only pursued it because there does seem to be a growing antipathy to people wanting to do things legitimately on the cheap which I find a little worrying; the sense that we somehow have an obligation to pay for stuff unnecessarily.

In reply to Robert Durran:

I understand that, and probably agree that I don’t want everything to become commercialised. But if we continue to use the highlands to the degree we are, without investing in some way, they’re just going to get ever more depressingly trashed.

In reply to Graeme G:

I've got no objection to paying a fair price for something (£2 per day at the ski carpark is fine by me if it is well used), but I certainly wouldn't criticise anybody for parking elsewhere and walking a bit further (I certainly would if it went up to, say, £10, and I was going to be away a few days!). 

I've nothing against investment but it needs to be done at a fair price people are willing to pay, otherwise it will be counterproductive (as with the current campsite situation).

In reply to Robert Durran:

I had a situation a couple of years ago when I was hassled - unpleasantly and quite aggressively, eg demands for money and my car being photographed - when I'd used the loo in a LLaTNP place having deliberately parked elsewhere and walked in (to avoid taking up a parking space and also to avoid feeling obliged to pay). This cast something of a shadow over the whole day - I seemed to get up the first hill faster than expected! - and once home I did a bit of research and found it was an official "comfort break" free loo anyway, and people were allowed (in theory at least) to use the car park for free for that purpose. I also worked out who it was who had been giving me grief - it felt like I wasn't the first to have been asked for money and photographed by him - and duly sent in a complaint to the Nat Park. Apart from getting an email acknowledgement, I heard absolutely nothing back - which wasn't really any great surprise. I've driven past the place plenty of times since but have never stopped to use the loo there again, nor would I apart from in a dire emergency.

In reply to Dave Hewitt:

Aye, they weren’t called ‘necessarium’ for nothing. Ridiculous how difficult it is to go for a pee in some parts of Scotland.

In reply to Robert Durran:

As you said, it is a suggested donation. Meaning it isn't compulsory. 

In reply to Michael Gordon:

That's why I used the word "voluntary"!

In reply to Robert Durran:

Indeed, though that tends to be implied in the word "donation" anyway. I'm just not sure why you'd choose to park elsewhere to avoid paying when there's no obligation to do so anyway.

In reply to Michael Gordon:

I'd feel a bit guilty not paying!