Hard to know what, if anything to say. I didn't know Steve but had the fortune to meet Andy and we exchanged countless emails, such was his limitless enthusiasm for all kinds of info about routes, new and old. His colossal contribution to climbing in Scotland is without question, but what struck me most about him was his generous nature with his hard won knowledge and experience. This was not someone who judged others on achievements or status, but a shared love. It feels like the end of a chapter in Scottish climbing history, but what a life lived - RIP both.