In reply to Alan M:
Hi Alan,
I got one of these from the Blacks store for £189 a couple of weeks back. The store in Liverpool is relocating so they have a massive sale on, although there was only a handful of these left.
My ME Lhotse was actually back with ME at the time, with the pit zips falling away, the chinguard stitching coming undone and seemed to be wetting out, all of this after only owning it for 10 months. And considering the summer we had, had probably only had under 10 days of usage in bad weather (all they done for me was fix the zip which was quite disappointing customer service in my opinion considering the length of time I have owned it and little usage)
As for the Rupal, I was out in it for 2 1/2 hours, low level walk in Snowdonia and it worked great. Top half was bone dry, bottom half was soaked as I was too lazy to get my waterproofs out with it only being a short walk.
I can feel a difference between the rupal 80D and the Lhotse 80D/40D. I feel the Rupal is more suited to English weather, it feels more robust.