In reply to rgold:
> you could hang for 15 minutes before suffocating. .... I recall reading of two such deaths to climbers years ago. <
> after tying the seat sling, tie an overhand knot about 18 inches above the seat sling knot. The overhand loop should be long enough to pass around the stranded persons back and situate under their armpits---a makeshift chest harness. It doesn't have to be particularly snug since it is only to prevent tipping. You have to send down a carabiner on the overhand loop so that the stranded person can, after stepping into the leg loops, pass the chest loop around them and clip it back to the rope above the overhand knot. (The need to clip the main rope above the overhand knot could be a weak point. Best to send the whole rig down configured so that the stranded person sees clearly where to clip the carabiner. Alternatively, tie a second small overhand loop just above the first and have them clip the chest harness to that.) <
Thanks for replying. Your solution would indeed prevent falling out of the rope and also suffocation.
However in my rather fantastical original post only a rope was available, so no krab available.
Perhaps a loop in the second end of the rope could provide much the same function though at least a second person would probably be necessary to manage it. The 10m cliff height would probably allow 4 lengths of rope down to the victim (if anchored 1/4 way from each end) so your raising by foot loop method should still be possible.
Every situation is different and if I didn't envisage a victim continuously dangling on the rope for a long period then personally I might still try for a secure waist tie, using one of the knots people mentioned, and get them up ASAP. I'd assumed the victim had little experience and so I would try to keep their rope manipulations to a minimum.
Incidentally have just looked up current UK ML teaching and I believe they recently stopped advocating full body support (Thompson knot?) and now recommend the simplicity of an overhand knotted waist tie for assisting someone (admittedly envisaging a somewhat less serious situation involving a rescuer who was not an experienced climber).