In reply to andy healey:
> Thanks for posting Ben.
> 2. Multiple people abseiling down what is arguably the most iconic route in Britain, which relies on crucial pebbles and an already brittle flake isn't a good idea. Especially when it's wet and the rock is more prone to breaking.
It may well be an iconic climb, but 'arguably the most iconic route in Britain' is possibly stretching the 'arguably' bit somewhat.
> Headpointing etc. is an entirely different issue, let's focus on one thing at a time.
Well when it comes to damaging and polishing the rock, it isn't actually.
What is likely to do the most damage to Partheon Shot, a bunch of Freshers abbing down it a few times, or several top climbers taking repeated falls onto the flake?
While I agree that when organising abseiling sessions, Universities (or any groups for that matter) should be careful with their selection of route(s), there does seem to be a certain amount of snobbery going on whenever this kind of thing raises its head.
And if we are serious about our collective concern for the precious nature of routes, then maybe we should collectively practise what we preach.
There are 5 miles of brilliant routes at Stanage, yet on an average day, you'd only think there were the Popular and Plantation areas?
I'm far more concerned about the damage and polish caused by the 'honeypot' approach to crag and route selection, which affects a huge number of climbs, than a few novice beginners failing to be aware of the significance of a route which might be on the hit list of 0.01% of the climbing population.
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