Patagonia R1 equivalent

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 James123 26 Apr 2017
Hi, first time poster. Looking for something that is similar to the Patagonia R1 hoody. Would buy an R1 but want something with a full zip and a hood. Am I right in thinking that the Rab Baseline hoody is very similar? I'm after something that I can wear as a mid, outer and even base layer depending on the conditions.
Thanks
James
 galpinos 26 Apr 2017
In reply to James123:

Mountain Equipment Eclipse.

Full Zip: http://www.mountain-equipment.co.uk/eclipse-hooded-jacket

Half Zip: http://www.mountain-equipment.co.uk/eclipse-hooded-zip-tee

I only have the old version of the half zip so don't know if the hood on the full zip is as good.
OP James123 26 Apr 2017
In reply to galpinos:

Thank you looks close to what I'm after
 bouldery bits 26 Apr 2017
In reply to James123:

Alpkit have something interesting.
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 StuDoig 26 Apr 2017
In reply to James123:

I'd second the eclipse - have practically lived in mine for the last couple of winters! Brilliant kit of kit.

Cheers,

Stu
 nathan79 26 Apr 2017
In reply to James123:

Nearly 6 hours gone and no Decathlon mention!

Maybe worth looking at for you.
https://www.decathlon.co.uk/forclaz-400-men-red-id_8369586.html
 99ster 27 Apr 2017
In reply to bouldery bits:

> Alpkit have something interesting.

This one?
https://www.alpkit.com/products/griffon-hoody-mens
In reply to James123:

I've just recently developed a brand new technology called 'i-Fleece'. It's like any normal powerstretch type hoody but it comes with the added benefit of fleecing you of all your cash.

But seriously though, just go to your local shop and try on a few tops.
 alexm198 27 Apr 2017
In reply to purplemonkeyelephant:

Found the guy that's never tried an R1
In reply to 99ster:

Interesting. Judging by the 280g weight, it looks somewhere between the lightweight MEC T3 hoodie and the fairly heavyweight R1. 35 quid is a very good price.

https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5026-604/T3-Hoodie
In reply to alexm198:

I've got an R1. It ain't all that. IMHO...
In reply to 99ster:

Hmmm... just spotted the zip. Wrong sort for something that could easily be worn as a base layer; I'd want a fairly lightweight coil zip, rather than a Vislon-stle moulded-tooth zip.
 Fraser 27 Apr 2017
In reply to nathan79:

> Nearly 6 hours gone and no Decathlon mention!Maybe worth looking at for you.https://www.decathlon.co.uk/forclaz-400-men-red-id_8369586.html

I have one of these which anyone is welcome to have for cost of postage. Doesn't fit me well at all but was bought in desperation when on holiday in Spain. It's a Large and is the torquoise coloured version.
In reply to nathan79:

Discussed at some length here (as you probably recall...)

https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/t.php?t=606789
 knighty 27 Apr 2017
In reply to Fraser:

Yhm!
Johangout 27 Apr 2017
In reply to James123:

If you're on the budget I'd check out the QUECHUA FORCLAZ 400 from decatlon. I have one of these and it does great job. But its definitely a cheap one
 Fenda 27 Apr 2017
In reply to James123:

I've got the Baseline and won't go anywhere without it.
 alexm198 27 Apr 2017
In reply to captain paranoia:

Ya reckon! I don't think it's necessarily worth the price tag - I wouldn't pay RRP - but I think it's a super bit of kit. What don't you like about it?
 Fraser 28 Apr 2017
In reply to knighty:

Got it, have replied.
In reply to alexm198:

It's good, but it's too warm for me. MEC T3 is much better for me. And much, much cheaper. I'm a tight git.

I was mostly trying to counter the "the R1 hoodie will freshen your breath, make you irresistible to women, bring world peace and cure cancer" impression that some are giving... There are plenty of other offerings that are just as good.
 galpinos 28 Apr 2017
In reply to captain paranoia:

Of all the differing options I have an old R1 and a ME Eclipse and much prefer the Eclipse. Better cut, much better hood and a thinner fabric (better as a base layer for me). The R1 is the original though, I believe it's changed quite a bit since.
OP James123 28 Apr 2017
In reply to Fenda:

Ordered a Baseline, thanks for the replies.
 alexm198 28 Apr 2017
In reply to captain paranoia:

Fair enough. I've been meaning to try those MEC offerings but sadly don't find myself in Canada very regularly! I haven't tried many of the R1 alternatives so couldn't comment.

I think the Montane Allez Micro Hoodie looks good too, but thought it might be a bit too thin. I find the R1 is just the right thickness, but then again I use it as a midlayer, not a baselayer.

In reply to alexm198:

Ah, as a mid layer, the R1 makes a lot more sense, although I find it warmer than most '100 weight' fleece; again, a double-edged sword.

So many people seem to use the R1 as a winter base layer, and I'd assumed you would be. too... I use the T3 as a base layer, or only layer. The Montane Allez is made from the same fabric, judging by the garment weight. For hoodless winter base layers, I go for the Decathlon Techwinter 500.

I went for a job lot purchase to get my T3s; maxed out their CD250 delivery charge bracket. Bought in the sales, they worked out, even with delivery, duty and the extortionate 'handling charge', at about £35 each.

ps. being a sad kit obsessive, I've just trawled old UKC 'R1 alternative threads', and collected these suggestions...

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ukc+r1+hood

MEC T3 hoodie
outdoor research radiant hoody
mountain hardwear monkey man lite hoody
ME Eclipse
Berghaus Smoulder I/II/III hoody
Lowe Alpine stealth hoody
Patagonia cap 4 hoody
MEC t2
ME Shroud
Lowe Alpine Ninja hoody
Haglofs Treble hood
Rab Baseline hoody
mammut kala patar tech hoody
Lowe Alpine CS Hoody
Black Diamond hoody
Rab AL pull-on https://rab.equipment/uk/al-pull-on
Marmot Thermo hoody
Outdoor Research Rumour Hoody
https://www.decathlon.co.uk/for-900-warm-ls-ts-red-id_8369743.html
Rab Shadow Hoodie
Blackhawk Warrior Wear Zip Hoodie
Karrimor Alpinste Smock
http://www.norrona.com/Products/3160-12/3445/lyngen-warm2flex-jacket-m
Outdoor Research Radiant Hybrid Hoody
patagonia piton hoody
Patagonia Araveto
Montane Allez
nwalpine black-spider-light-hoody
http://nwalpine.com/store-1/m-black-spider-hoody
http://www.wildthingsgear.com/wild-things/shop/baselayer/m-power-stretch-ho...

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In reply to captain paranoia:

Saw one of these in the Reading store today, reduced to £16. Shame it wasn't in my size; it would have been nice to give it a try. Now discontinued; the familiar story of such items...

https://www.decathlon.co.uk/for-900-warm-ls-ts-red-id_8369743.html
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