In reply to Toreador:
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> None that I can see.
> Half the Howgills are currently in the National Park, the other half aren't. But a few years ago, an ugly track was allowed to be bulldozed across the tops, almost entirely within the national park.
Aren't you being a little bit disingenuous here, Toreador? I assume you mean the track that was made from Calders to The Calf summit. I saw that being constructed - a small digger with one man - and it was to control the erosion that was getting pretty bad. Granted, it's not ideal but it has mellowed and there was little to no native stone to construct a path like, say, on The Band or Great Gable. The erosion was also becoming bad beside Cautley Spout - there is plenty of stone there and a reasonable job resulted. Both projects were funded partly by the Dales NP.