In reply to steveej:
> seems like you have failed to grasp the theme of my post that was indeed more clearly articulated by Jimbo above, and have resorted to taking things out of context - just to try an win an argument.
perhaps you could try and write coherently then?
> The rules are the rules and the riders should agree to abide by them. This argument is stated time and again by the Armstrong haters. My point is that if the rule was changed to allow PEDS would that make it all ok? at which point you replied about Motorbikes?
yes because its the same or, if you would prefer a more simplistic example, take the cases of changes in bike design and those which are or arent allowed.
Turn up on a recumbent and you would have an advantage in some cases, however it would be cheating.
> I disagree on peak athletics being healthy. The human body is just not designed to pump that much blood around your body time again, year after year.
the science is out on that, however what is known is blood doping is dangerous. When carefully, eg professionally, monitored the risk is lower. however the problem is that professionalism costs money. If you allow it at the top end then lower down people will need to do so as well. the problem is they wont be able to afford the doctors to do it safely.
> You seem to blame Armstrong for the entire culture within the sport.
for someone complaining about taking things out of context you perhaps shouldnt do so yourself.
However he was, according to USADA etc a clear leader in it and hence bears additional responsibility.
> I believ people should take responsibility for themselves instead of blaming others.
well done. I am not sure of the relevance of this but well done anyway.
People did take responsibility and got attacked for it, including legal action which cost people, who were right, a shitload of money.
> So what if he was a bully and a nasty man. Life is full of them.
ermm, yes.
The point is if you bully a shitload of people you will likely face the repercussions eventually, as in this case.
most of the dopers when caught held their hands up , he didnt and as the consequence of what he did to keep his hands down has been hit a lot harder.