In reply to GIPFEL:
> (In reply to Oli) franco? who is that?
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> this is a legitimate question that few seem able to answer. Leave the swearing and abuse for a while and explain to me why ring ouzels need protecting.
Ring Ouzel is included on the Red List of Birds of Conservation Concern for a definition of what this means go to
http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdguide/status_explained.asp
It makes me sad to read your comments on this site and ashamed that the climbing community contains people who are as selfish as you.
If climbers do not observe bird bans the outcome will be that climbers will be banned from the cliffs and rightly so. Fortunately the overwhealming majority of climbers are not like yourself. The current arrangements work well the climbers get to use the cliffs most of the time but withdraw when the needs of wildlife are greater than our our own.
If you behave in the manner that you suggest you may get to climb your chosen route at your chosen time and get us all banned from climbing it at a future date so just think and act responsibly please!!!!!!