In reply to Donotello:
The people who go to the caves in Cheddar do not detract from the pleasantness of the environment, and neither do the people there for a hike, or the people there getting an ice cream. It's a nice thing for people to do. I took my mam to Cheddar and we had a lovely day walking around the gorge, enjoying the audio-tour of the main cave and buying cheese, icecream, cider, fudge etc.
Tourists and walkers are fine. Car Wankers are the problem. I'd argue that all recreational users of the gorge are on the same side as us, and that losing them makes it a darker place, not more relaxed at all.
> Why would it be shit for climbers? Less tourists, less cars, less people. Cheddar gorge And caves is first and foremost focussed on its paying customers, with those out the way and no one left on the payroll in the gorge then surely it would be more relaxed for climbers and non-paying visitors who have always been secondary.