In reply to VSisjustascramble:
> Look at Wintertree’s plots. Compare the UK with a country with vaccine passports. I guarantee that we have lower case rate growth and our deaths will be lower than the locked in rates of the other countries. Why is this? Please please answer this because elimination fantasists like yourself can never explain why we don’t have exponential growth, but countries with vaccine passports do.
Again I can disprove this. I am not a elimination fantasist. As proof I will state "I believe endemic looks likely than elimination" and I've said that here on UKC before.
Maybe they have passports because they have exponential growth. Maybe I can't explain the politics of multiple other countries. Maybe I can't explain the epidemiology of multiple other countries.
> Yes - it’s excess demand.
> Do you accept the graphs in the BBC article are real? You can see for yourself that Covid isn’t the issue.
Every hospital bed used for Covid is a bed that can't be used for cancer, strokes or something else. We don't have the mechanism to reduce cancer, strokes or something else over a period of weeks. We do have mechanisms to reduce covid over a period of weeks.
> Grow up - I’m not an elimination fantasist. I’ve been double jabbed like everyone else.
You can honestly disagree with it but I still don't think you can honestly claim to be ignorant of the following rationale.
1) vaccine passports to reduce transmission in events where they are applied
2) to reduce the burden on the NHS by compelling people to get vaccinated.
Yours is not an honest post because you cannot honestly be ignorant of the following when people define why they think vaccine passports might be a good idea.
vaccination reduces infections
people uninfected thanks to vaccination don't put a burden on the NHS
people infected after vaccination place a lesser burden on the NHS
people uninfected thanks to vaccination don't transmit the virus further reducing burden on NHS