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pasbury on 03 Dec 2018

Exhibit A; things that carry water.

They just need a container bit and a lid bit that creates a seal. They should be separable and easily washable. Any valves, tubes mouthpeices etc are just places to mke friends with black mould and bacteria.

Simple ones are cheaper too.

Blue Straggler - on 03 Dec 2018
In reply to pasbury:

 

Pants

 

Dan Arkle - on 03 Dec 2018
In reply to Blue Straggler:

I do prefer technical pants for long duration exertions. 

Exhibit C - pillows. Inflatable or packable pillows are an abomination. Take a real one if car camping /soft. Or use your jacket 

pasbury on 03 Dec 2018
In reply to Blue Straggler:

Are you american or british old boy?

girlymonkey - on 03 Dec 2018
In reply to Dan Arkle:

No, jackets slide out from under your head and you keep waking up to rearrange it. I have a lovely wee inflatable pillow which is not slidey and packs down to be tiny.

ianstevens - on 03 Dec 2018
In reply to girlymonkey:

Put your jacket in a stuffsack/dry bag and it negates those issues. If you’re going light, go light. If not, take a proper pillow!

girlymonkey - on 03 Dec 2018
In reply to ianstevens:

Stuff sacks are just as slidey as jackets! My pillow has a non slidey surface. I don't know what weight it is, but really next to nothing and it adds so much comfort. A good sleep is important to me!

Edit: just looked it up, it weighs 79g! It packs smaller than my fist

Post edited at 20:18
girlymonkey - on 03 Dec 2018
In reply to pasbury:

Beanie hats don't need to be technical! The ones I crochet are absolutely sufficient!

Ian Parsons - on 03 Dec 2018
In reply to pasbury:

One sock. Let's face it; a pair is bordering on the worryingly complicated.

Bob Kemp - on 03 Dec 2018
In reply to girlymonkey:

Crocheting looks pretty technical to me...

 

girlymonkey - on 03 Dec 2018
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Nah, so easy my Granny managed it ;-)

pasbury on 03 Dec 2018
In reply to Ian Parsons:

I have been give several pairs labelled left and right.

 

I rest my case.

Ian Parsons - on 03 Dec 2018
In reply to pasbury:

Just get out of there, now. It'll only get worse!

The Lemming - on 03 Dec 2018
In reply to pasbury:

Brexit.

I've heard that you can get a red, white and blue one rather than the complex one.

cb294 - on 04 Dec 2018
In reply to pasbury:

You Luddite! I bought asymmetrically padded mountaineering socks (Falke TK1 Wool) a few years ago I will never go back!

CB

Bob Kemp - on 04 Dec 2018
In reply to girlymonkey:

Ah, but grannies are known to be very technically skilled - that’s why we don’t teach them to suck eggs! 

krikoman - on 04 Dec 2018
In reply to Blue Straggler:

> Pants


arseholes!

Toerag - on 04 Dec 2018
In reply to girlymonkey:

>  I have a lovely wee inflatable pillow 

don't you have any concerns about leakage?

 

peppermill - on 04 Dec 2018
In reply to pasbury:

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

 

There's an outdoor kit industry that needs to be kept going! ;p

Max factor - on 04 Dec 2018
In reply to pasbury:

Rucksacks. 

The irony is that the retailers that get this and keep their packs really clean are often the more expensive.

Ferret on 04 Dec 2018
In reply to Max factor:

The other irony is that the more 'stuff' there is on the rucksack the less I understand what it is there for. All the weight and bulk increasing toggles, loops, flaps straps etc etc. And they never come with instructions to tell you what was in the designer and product marketing and development teams minds when they designed it. Leads me to conclude most of it is just chucked on for effect.....

Xharlie on 04 Dec 2018
In reply to Ferret:

Gear loops must be the perfect example of frippery on backpacks. There is absolutely no reason for them to exist because, if you do need gear on loops, you also need to be wearing a harness with which to use that gear -- no backpack waist belt is rated.

kathrync - on 04 Dec 2018
In reply to girlymonkey:

> My pillow has a non slidey surface. I don't know what weight it is, but really next to nothing and it adds so much comfort. A good sleep is important to me!

> Edit: just looked it up, it weighs 79g! It packs smaller than my fist

Do you mind posting a link?  I get trapped nerves in my neck if I try to use a jacket and I haven't found an inflatable pillow I like yet.  It's been really sucking the joy from camping for me as it takes 2-3 days to clear up after it happens!

girlymonkey - on 04 Dec 2018
In reply to kathrync:

https://www.trekkinn.com/outdoor-wandern/sea-to-summit-aeros-premium-pillow-regular/135906282/p

Sorry for the German site, I'm in Munich at the moment and it's all my phone is bringing up! The name is the same though 

DubyaJamesDubya - on 04 Dec 2018
In reply to girlymonkey:

> Nah, so easy my Granny managed it ;-)

Never underestimate the technical capabilities of Granny!

kathrync - on 04 Dec 2018
In reply to girlymonkey:

Thank you!

kathrync - on 04 Dec 2018
In reply to Xharlie:

> Gear loops must be the perfect example of frippery on backpacks. 

Depends on the backpack.  On smaller packs, I entirely agree.  However, on the occasions when I have climbed with a larger pack I like to have the waist-belt done up so it stays stable, but that often occludes the gear loops on my harness so I do use the ones on the pack.

Having said that, in general I agree that there is just too much unnecessary stuff on rucksacks.  Although it can be entertaining trying to match up all various gadgets with the manufacturer's description

 

Rob Parsons on 05 Dec 2018
In reply to kathrync:

outdoorgb.com sells Sea To Summit stuff online btw

Rob Parsons on 05 Dec 2018
In reply to Dan Arkle:

> I do prefer technical pants for long duration exertions. 

I have never understood what they are ('technical pants' I mean (or, should I say, 'technical pant' - plurals being so 2000s), rather than 'long duration exertions.')

What form does a pants/pant have to take in order to qualify as 'technical'?

 

 

FactorXXX - on 05 Dec 2018
In reply to Dan Arkle:

> I do prefer technical pants for long duration exertions. 

I prefer not to wear any pants at all for my long duration exertions...

 

pasbury on 05 Dec 2018
In reply to FactorXXX:

> I prefer not to wear any pants at all for my long duration exertions...

Absolutely. Long johns all the way for that sort of thing.


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