Scottish vaccine research - very positive

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From Sky news and just on BBC:

“COVID-19: Single vaccine jab linked to 85% and 94% drop in risk of coronavirus hospital admissions in Scotland, study shows”

Bloody brilliant!!!!

 Naechi 22 Feb 2021
In reply to mick taylor:

"Jag" surely...

 kaiser 22 Feb 2021
In reply to mick taylor:

It does look like good news on the surface but on the other hand this will be the perfect ammo for the CRG ultras who want to Let it Rip.

In reply to kaiser:

> It does look like good news on the surface but on the other hand this will be the perfect ammo for the CRG ultras who want to Let it Rip.

Yes, let's hope for some really bad news, maybe a vaccine resistant, ultra transmissable certain death variant, to make them shut up.

In reply to kaiser:

> It does look like good news on the surface but on the other hand this will be the perfect ammo for the CRG ultras who want to Let it Rip.

Best to ignore people like that - make them an irrelevance to your life. 

 girlymonkey 22 Feb 2021
In reply to mick taylor:

And the sun is shining in the central belt today! Scotland really is on a winning streak!

 Eric9Points 22 Feb 2021
In reply to mick taylor:

Yes it's excellent news.

What's also great to hear is that there is evidence now emerging that vaccination *does* significantly reduce transmission. As younger people start to get vaccinated we should start to see a significant drop in cases although that may be offset somewhat by relaxations in lockdown regulations.

Post edited at 16:57
In reply to mick taylor:

> Best to ignore people like that - make them an irrelevance to your life. 

Sadly, the Government are not ignoring these swivel-eyed loons. That's the problem.

In reply to Eric9Points:

> What's also great to hear is that there is evidence now emerging that vaccination *does* significantly reduce transmission. As younger people start to get vaccinated we should start to see a significant drop in cases although that may be offset somewhat by relaxations in lockdown regulations.

If there's evidence that vaccination reduces transmission it also suggests changing strategy from going down the age groups to doing people most likely to be in situations where transmission can occur first. 

 Roadrunner6 22 Feb 2021
In reply to Eric9Points:

> Yes it's excellent news.

> What's also great to hear is that there is evidence now emerging that vaccination *does* significantly reduce transmission. As younger people start to get vaccinated we should start to see a significant drop in cases although that may be offset somewhat by relaxations in lockdown regulations.

I was under the impression that this was almost always certainly the case. Is there any effective vaccine which DOESN'T reduce transmission?

There was a guy on the news here saying something similar, because the data out of Israel showed the same last month.

 Roadrunner6 22 Feb 2021
In reply to tom_in_edinburgh:

> If there's evidence that vaccination reduces transmission it also suggests changing strategy from going down the age groups to doing people most likely to be in situations where transmission can occur first. 

Not necessarily, the first aim is to reduce pressure on the NHS/health care systems and reduce deaths. The quickest way to do that is to vaccinate high risk groups.

 Eric9Points 22 Feb 2021
In reply to Roadrunner6:

> I was under the impression that this was almost always certainly the case. Is there any effective vaccine which DOESN'T reduce transmission?

You'd have thought so but it always seemed subject to confirmation. Now we are getting that confirmation. 

 Lankyman 23 Feb 2021
In reply to mick taylor:

> From Sky news and just on BBC:

> “COVID-19: Single vaccine jab linked to 85% and 94% drop in risk of coronavirus hospital admissions in Scotland, study shows”

> Bloody brilliant!!!!

Are they following it up with a dose of Irnbru?

 fred99 17:18 Tue
In reply to tom_in_edinburgh:

> If there's evidence that vaccination reduces transmission it also suggests changing strategy from going down the age groups to doing people most likely to be in situations where transmission can occur first. 

Are you seriously suggesting that we vaccinate the ravers, party-goers, illegal drinking den customers and such like BEFORE the decent people who've been keeping themselves (and the rest of us) safe by NOT indulging in these antics.

 girlymonkey 17:23 Tue
In reply to fred99:

I would be suggesting vaccinating teachers, police, supermarket staff etc in a high priority. Anyone with a people facing job. 

 Naechi 17:46 Tue
In reply to fred99:

> Are you seriously suggesting that we vaccinate the ravers, party-goers, illegal drinking den customers and such like BEFORE the decent people who've been keeping themselves (and the rest of us) safe by NOT indulging in these antics.

Eh? He's clearly for giving it to bats and pangolin... it's quite a leap to get to what you said from what he said

 fred99 16:34 Wed
In reply to girlymonkey:

> I would be suggesting vaccinating teachers, police, supermarket staff etc in a high priority. Anyone with a people facing job. 

I would hope so.

 fred99 16:39 Wed
In reply to Naechi:

> Eh? He's clearly for giving it to bats and pangolin... it's quite a leap to get to what you said from what he said

Not really.

The people MOST likely to catch Covid are the idiots who don't seem to give a damn and who are carrying on as if it doesn't exist. He said he'd give the vaccine to the ones most likely to catch it.

Maybe if he'd said that he'd prefer it given to the more vulnerable people who are CARRYING OUT NECESSARY WORK  then there wouldn't have been any likelihood of confusion.

(We are talking about Tom_in_Edinburgh after all, he'd probably want anyone north of the border vaccinated before anyone south, knowing his rabid nationalism).

 Flinticus 16:56 Wed
In reply to mick taylor:

From the New York Times, regarding the J&J one shot vaccine:

The vaccine had a 72 percent overall efficacy rate in the United States and 64 percent in South Africa, where a highly contagious variant emerged in the fall and is now driving most cases. The efficacy in South Africa was seven points higher than earlier data released by the company.

The vaccine also showed 86 percent efficacy against severe forms of Covid-19 in the United States, and 82 percent against severe disease in South Africa. That means that a vaccinated person has a far lower risk of being hospitalized or dying from Covid-19.

What's this like in comparison to the AstraZ and Pfizer ones (re dealing with that E484K variant)

Post edited at 17:01
In reply to Flinticus:

> What's this like in comparison to the AstraZ and Pfizer ones (re dealing with that E484K variant)

Don’t know, but looks good to me! It’s kinda great to be comparing how good different vaccines are. Wind the clock back to last April and I would never have dreamt of having these discussions  

Other folk may know better than me. 

 Roadrunner6 12:16 Sat
In reply to Flinticus:

It's hard to compare the vaccines because they were trialed at different times against different variants. All we know is all 4 are very good and offer near complete protection against hospitalization and death.


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