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Seems there was a bit of an upset when a queue jumper did just that on Snowdon yesterday.

Whats the veiw of the forum if you come up from the opposite side are you supposed to walk down the Llanberis path to join a queue of what looks like hundreds of baying "join the Queue's"

Lol, the news reports of them “going up the summit the wrong way”! 

Bonkers situation- to be fair I reckon if I got anywhere and it was that busy I wouldn’t bother hanging around for the summit. Stuff queuing for an hour. 

Well capoap this screams out for a "FFS" response. People reportedly queuing for an hour to stand by the summit trip point; FFS! A fight at the summit - FFS! The dratted mountain is full up, over full, on popular weekends. Never mind parking restrictions - perhaps we need walker restrictions, tickets for the summit, alternate daily walking route closures, and banning railway-borne visitors.

It's just too easy to get to the summit. Rip out the signpost stones. Tear down the stepped staircases up the scree slopes. Demolish the eyesore of a cafe. Have snipers randomly shoot walkers. Put the head of the Snowdonia National Park Authority in the stocks at the Nant Peris park and ride site. It's become a bleedin' farce.

Or, keep Snowdon busy to protect the other mountains! A similar thing happens unofficially in caving, where some caves are 'sacrificial' to protect more delicate caves. 

Hilarious and/or sad, take your pick. Haven't been up Mount Snowden for years, but I seem to recall it wasn't that busy but I still didn't bother to climb the last steps to the trig-point. I must lack the killer instinct. 

We need more folk to start a list of 'hills I have nearly been to the top of'

Was it something similar that stopped Joe Brown getting to the top of Kanchenjunga?

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/snowdon-mountain-fight-walker...

You couldn't make this stuff up.

Extreme Queuing was always the sport we as a nation were destined to create. Hopefully Red Bull can lend their support and really get this off the ground.

Hahahahaha......wtf 😂

This is crying out for an enterprising someone to don a hi-viz, get to the top before dawn and set up a charging system to get to the trig-point - a la the Bristol zoo car parking urban myth.

I have to say the last time I went up was when Bonnington took the Olympic torch up on the train.

At least i walked/scrambled up via Clogwyn Y Person   It was a bloody diesel engine too !!!!

Jim Perrin described it as a sacrificial mountain in the 1980s in one of his enjoyable and provocative articles. Prescient.

I ran up and past the top on Saturday coming "the wrong way" on leg 5 of the PB round.  Line was at least 30 minutes long.  While running past I got abuse for "going to fast" and "there is a que". 

Amused me for quite a while

I only ever go anywhere near 'popular' mid week, precisely because of bollocks like this.

All the result of the over promotion of the British great outdoors.

They are not 2m apart...

It’s usually very quiet after 6pm. 

I've always jumped the queue and gone straight to the summit, no one has dared to challenge me  LOL

I once caught up a small queue of people making tediously slow progress down the Llanberis path and got dirty looks just for overtaking them. Almost as nuts as the people I saw walking down backwards because it was so steep.

I'm baffled that people would queue to get to a summit! However, I feel there is a game to be had in arriving at summits "the wrong way"! Which other summits (in the uk) do people queue for? 

Is this wild queuing?

the inn pinn?

Wild? Some of them were livid!

I assume it is all because people want to take a selfie at the trig point without other people in it. There is no reason why people couldn't be approaching the summit from different directions at the same time - an absolute nonsense.  

To be fair we’ve all queued for Trad routes on a sunny bank holiday weekend.

Imagine if someone tried to jump the queue then. 

Maybe for some people, getting up Snowdon is a REALLY significant achievement? Fair play to 'em.  It's not as though you need to queue with them.

I mean, what are all the sneering, ridiculing 'proper' mountaineers doing on Snowdon at busy time, anyway ?

I’ve seen folk queuing on Pen-y-Fan before. Definitely seems to be a photo thing though.

I'm confused having conquered Mount Snowdon over 50 times in the last 60 years by pretty well every route up it. What is the "right" way up? Have I inadvertently climbed it the "wrong" way in my career? 

Is there a "right" and "wrong" way up Mount Scafell Pike and Mount Ben Nevis? I understand, however" there is queuing on Mount Everest these days so obviously things are changing. 

Yes, and there could be variable charging to allow for Speedy Summiting, like speedy boarding with airlines.

Dave

I think the sneering is maybe more at the social media/ selfie culture. People wouldn't need to queue if they didn't need so much time to get their perfect profile picture! If people just want to reach the top, have a look at the view and feel pleased with themselves then that's fine. You can do that with someone else next to you and people passing you "the wrong way" would not cause any problems!!

where's the entitlement in that?

I don't know.  Sharing this sort of achievement with your mates is important to some people, just as keeping a climbing log book is important to some people.  It's not as though they are pimping for sponsors.

There are narrow steps up to the trig point at the very top that make it difficult to pass other people. It’s a lot quicker if people go up one set of steps and down the other. Which I’m sure you know if you’ve been up there 50times. 

This is a really interesting theory I've heard before and I tend to agree with in concept. it's just a shame that as well as the usual routes, there are some bloody good routes up snowdon.

It's more a sign of the times and the average standard of fitness in society, where a few hours walk is now considered to be some superior achievement worth shouting about. 

I blame Brexit. Queue jumping was never an issue when we were in Europe. 

ah ha! Gerald the talking Gorrilla.

Probably #vanshitters

Down at Pen y Fan doing the circular route on a sunny May bank holiday and people were queuing for 25 mins for a pic at the top of it. Madness!

ahh trust us to bring in a class system for scaling summets.

If I might just butt in there...…….. as Aristotle said...….

If this is the future in a dystopian  Instagram world, then I think the answer is just to start a separate queue for those who don't need a carefully composed selfie.

Yes, luckily bagging the top of Pen Y Fan is relatively easy even when busy as its flat. Plenty of better places to take sweet instagram shots. But gotta have a pic with the sign I suppose. Haven't done it if you don't post it on instagram.

Maybe we should reduce the amount of permits issued to stop people with no high altitude experience being led up Snowdon. 

Chill dude. Keeps 'em all in one place ;p

I saw this earlier:

https://metro.co.uk/2020/08/30/venice-cotswolds-village-says-overrun-touris...

Together with everyone descending on the beaches as well, I feel that the chaos everywhere is just because of Covid-19. People cannot go elsewhere so they have flooded every beautiful spot in the country, all at the same time.

Or put 50% of the Llanberis sherpas on furlough?

I don’t really see this as a big problem. 
 

British people 

1. Love to queue.

2. Love to complain about other people breaking rules. 

3. Love a good punch up. 

Seems to me like they all had a great day out. 

Just flash a BMC membership card and tell them you are a frequent walker.

Genuinely laughing out loud at some of these replies, what do you think you are doing, being humourous on here? Repent! 

You didn't tell me you were friends with Raymond?

Or none of that- let them have Snowdon, leave the rest of the national park for us to enjoy away form the flip-flopped masses.

At least SAR know where to find them? 

on the contrary, protecting the great British queue is one of the reasons for leaving the pesky europeans to their own devices, have you never been skiing in france?!

Fair play to anyone who walks up Snowdon in flip flops.

Its coming down again that hurts. Hate the thong pulling between my toes on the downslope.

Flip-flops and a thong? Extreme...

I'd suggest sorting your underwear out after taking a summit shit, though; will stop it getting tangled up in your toes...

I'm all fingers and toes when I get in a panic..

If you went up the Llanberis path it'd hardly be difficult, to be fair.

Absolutely nae chance of that!!! Ever, the climb is taken, I’ll go for something else or arrange to be there first! 
I do however recall trying to scale the old man of Hoy via the E2 route on the S face ( I think?). By the time I reached the belay of that traverse and almost pulled out every single hold. A quick look up showing more of the same, I reversed my lead back to the belay to find we were just on time to get up the route!!! 😂

Interesting. I hadn’t realized Snowdon had a “summit“. I suppose I must have walked over it without realizing. 

They need to make the paths more dangerous. It would keep a few of the the riff raff away...

Or maybe a few bad TripAdvisor reviews...

https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/the_pub/ben_nevis_very_steep_and_too_high...

Oh I don't know - I've managed to climb F5a in flip flops.

Come on, a 10m route hardly compares with a 1000m plus mountain.