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hey wondering what byrants gully is like thinking of doing that one next because it’s the longest scramble in wales and it’s only a grade 2 and it’s got no walking what’s it like compared to y garn east ridge and idwal buttress 

In reply to Cneifion Arête:

From a personal point of view myself and a couple of friends went to it once, started scrambling up it and decided it was way too slimy and backed off again.
 

I imagine to be pleasant it would need a good dry spell first, which we’ve definitely not had. I’ve not been back to it, so can’t comment on what it is like when it is really dry.

In reply to rockcatch:

ah fair enough i could imagine it might be a bit daunting in wet 

In reply to Cneifion Arête:

I've not done Idwal Buttress, but Y Garn East Ridge is a good bit easier than Byrant's Gully. They are both great routes. The gully is less exposed but much harder technically. 

I climbed the gully solo in torrential rain, under these conditions it felt like a grade 3S. Despite or even because of these difficulties, the gully was an epically atmospheric expedition; a sustained and continuous line of weakness through Glyder Fawr's massive south face. Whilst the route offers continuous scrambling and some sharp obstacles, these two factors are rarely combined; the sharp obstacles aren't themselves that sustained. 

In good, dry, conditions, the gully is - i imagine - still pretty tough. The latest Cicerone guide grades it a 2+ (the same as Bastow Buttress, Braich Ty Du Face, Ideal Staircase et. al.), which i'd agree with. There are various obstacles that are harder than you'd expect at grade 2. 

The ridge is much simpler, even if the hardest route over the initial buttresses is taken. Most of the ridge is far more escapable, takes less drainage, dries quicker etc.

Greetz

In reply to Cneifion Arête:

I really enjoy Bryant’s, but be aware there is plenty of loose rock about, and some quite steep pitches.

towards the base is a plaque to someone who died on it - keep a steady head and check holds - even (especially) big ones. Remember that pushing down on to holds - pushing the rock into the cliff - will reduce the chance of a nasty surprise.

In reply to Cneifion Arête:

Here you go. It’s just like this. 
 

youtube.com/watch?v=4Qe4cTnzD3w&

In reply to Cneifion Arête: are we really going to have to endure days and days of your rambling nonsense and fantasy again?  I sympathise if you are unwell, and would encourage you to seek professional help, otherwise just get on and do something!

In reply to jaipur:

Only if you read the threads, your choice. 

In reply to Cneifion Arête:

Thought you'd be too busy shagging your hot new girlfriend,  you know, the one who just walked up to you ...or not. Either that, or writing your next award winning (c)rap.

In reply to Cneifion Arête:

Well that changed quickly...

In reply to John Ww:

you’re a dick head u know that there is no need to rude u didn’t have to read this thread 

In reply to rockcatch:

I went up there with the future Mrs B the morning after we got engaged. Despite that she still married me. 

It was an interesting day - we found someone about halfway up trying to aid it! They were stuck at the slab above the little pool (which had a decaying sheep in). The penalty for slipping off the slab was standing on the putrefying carcass. He had a thousand mile stare and was quite pleased to see some other humans - was clearly massively psyched and was trying to stop his jumps getting caught on the sheep. It was all very weird.

I really enjoyed the upper section through the basalt, and it's pretty quiet at the top for a picnic. Agree long dry spell ideal (it would be a very serious adventure in the rain).

b

In reply to Cneifion Arête:

I’ve never asked anyone on the internet how one of the 100’s of routes I’ve climbed was prior to doing it, I’m still here.

In fact getting advice from strangers could be more dangerous or time wasting than using your own judgment. 
 

You’re not going to learn to judge these things if you don’t use your own initiative for anything. Plus it’s annoying. 

In reply to Cneifion Arête:

How rude of YOU. You won't become the scrambling babe magnet of your dreams if you can't be a little more diplomatic. Maybe you can smoke a little of that product you sell and chill out dude?

In reply to Cneifion Arête:

Hey guys, is it possible to edit the thread title? It grates...  or maybe I've risen to the bait.

In reply to Cneifion Arête:

Wait for a dry spell and wear a helmet.

In reply to Cneifion Arête:

Ouch! I’m cut to the very quick. I doubt I shall ever sleep again.

In reply to Cneifion Arête:

I did it in the torrential rain. It was basically a waterfall. We escaped after the first gully because it was very cold.

Great day, though very serious! We took a rope but it wasn’t needed. Excellent scramble but felt more like gorge walking.

In reply to Cneifion Arête:

I think you should do it in the rain just to see if its harder...... please

In reply to Cneifion Arête:

It`s a long walk back to the Pass, you could try down-climbing it.

In reply to Cneifion Arête:

It's pretty damn hard (harder than cneifon arete anyway) if there's a normal amount of water on it . Wait for a dry spell and even then it's probably worth grade 3 . 

Unless y garn east ridge felt easy don't even think about it 

In reply to Cneifion Arête:

Report to Mr. James after school on Monday. You shall write five hundred times 'I must not be a rude young man to complete strangers on the Internet'.

In reply to tehmarks:

lmao this shits funny he’s the one who started it 

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In reply to UKC Forums:

i thought byrants gully was a climb it’s not a hill ?

In reply to UKC Forums:

Can I suggest a move to a new forum - “Bullshit Corner”?

In reply to Cneifion Arête:

The clue is in the forum description:

"A general forum for topics relating to hillwalking. Discuss walks you have been on, great scrambles, the best ridges, Munro-bagging and longer multi-day walks."

If it was regarded as a "climb" then it would get a climbing grade, not a scrambling grade.