In reply to Pete Pozman:
> You won't get there in time for a parking spot, unless you set off at 04:30 and if you find yourself down at Pen y Gwryd you'll have a nasty 40 minute trog back up the tarmac before you get started. The shuttle is the way to do it.
I wouldn't be rocking up without having pre booked a parking space at Pen Y Pass.
> Or... take him along the Nantlle Ridge and back, he'll love that.
tbh I've been round the Horseshoe so many times I'd prefer the Nantlle Ridge but he's never done it and has his heart set on it.... can't blame him as for me it is one of the finest mountain days out in the UK.
Anyway it got called off as my wife decided to work on the bank holiday which means I have now child care duties...
Will head down one other weekend in May..... when it will be just as busy