/ Paths on Tryfan

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Jezz0r 26 Aug 2019

I've been looking at Google Earth, planning for an upcoming trip (Google Earth resolution in Snowdonia is amazing by the way, you can see every boulder).

I've spotted what appears to be a well constructed path leading SE up to the West face of Tryfan. I'm pretty sure it's not a stream, but it's not marked on the OS maps. It appears to lead to the base of the large scree slope in the gully between the main and north summits.

Scrambles in Snowdonia doesn't list any routes here, and it seems like walking up the scree slope would be a bad idea. So

1) Why is there a path here? Who uses it?

2) Why isn't it listed on the OS map if it's a deliberately constructed path?

1philjones1 26 Aug 2019
In reply to Jezz0r:

Think that’ll be the West Face route, often used in descent as it’s the quickest way off. Tops out between the two summits. Grass/mud on the bottom section, then a made path, then an easy scramble, but loose.

Post edited at 12:44
Jezz0r 26 Aug 2019
In reply to 1philjones1:

It's certainly not the grade 3 "West Face Route" listed in Scrambles in Snowdonia: the one I'm talking about is a few hundred metres further south than the Notch. That doesn't necessarily contradict what you're saying though.

Bulls Crack 26 Aug 2019
In reply to Jezz0r:

The OS may have made a judgement on it along the lines of as far as most walkers are concerned its not a viable route so they've just shown the main routes up and down the mountain (+ the definitive public rights of way) 

1philjones1 26 Aug 2019
In reply to Jezz0r:

No, not that, I shouldn’t have called it the West face route. The route I’ve described is up the West flank of Tryfan, barely a grade 1 at the top. It’s a very common route up or down

Post edited at 14:43
SouthernSteve 26 Aug 2019
In reply to Jezz0r:

The path is marked on the Harvey's 1:40,000 and is a fair descent. Steve

Fozzy 27 Aug 2019
In reply to Jezz0r:

I’ve scooted off down there before and it’s not easy but is quite a direct way down. 

Offwidth 28 Aug 2019
In reply to Jezz0r:

It's a grim and loose way up when the other easy scrambles are all good. It's a fast descent if happy with loose stuff.

tagscuderia 28 Aug 2019
In reply to Jezz0r:

That's the Western Gully "path," it's the easiest and quickest way on/off the summit.

1philjones1's description is spot on. The path is easily spotted from the road and is best accessed from the first lay-by or car park. I've descended it plenty of times having watched the sunset from the summit, personally I've never found it grim or loose.

Post edited at 12:23
r0b 28 Aug 2019
In reply to Jezz0r:

In descent that is the fast way off Tryfan for fell runners, it's quite a steep kind of gully and not particularly pleasant TBH! After the top gully section you can either continue down the path you mention or turn right and take the gully nearest Tryfan if you want to come out on the road near the end of Llyn Ogwen

Rigid Raider 28 Aug 2019
In reply to Jezz0r:

Blimey, the OP ain't wrong.... you can see every boulder, even Adam & Eve.

When we were students bumbling around on Tryfan we came across a huge boulder cave somewhere on the NW flank of the mountain. I've never been able to find it again. 

r0b 28 Aug 2019
In reply to Rigid Raider:

The Google maps 3D view of Snowdonia is very good. I used it to virtual recce Llanberis to Capel Curig for a friends Paddy Buckley found I was supporting on!

ben b 29 Aug 2019
In reply to r0b:

The western gully descent is indeed fast. 

If I recall correctly the summit to A5 record was set (Beard or Donnelly, can't recall) at 4 minutes!

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