Steep price for a wind shell with a pile fleece. Power grid fleece with a separate wind shell is far more versatile IMO.
Jottnar seem to be plumbing the depths of how unnecessarily complicated and therefore expensive you can make a fleece. Sorry, I should say "technically sophisticated jacket"
Aren't they just doing what I think Rab, Mountain Equipment, Montane and probably others have done in the last few winters of offering a Polartec Alpha insulated jacket with the lining removed? When people stopped using Alpha between two layers a few years ago I could see the logic, but did think basically it was reinventing Buffalo shirts once again.
Did you know Polartec Alpha was developed for Special Operations Forces? £195 for a lightweight fleece made in the far east.
It`s difficult to heat up Polartec Alpha when only 45g/m weight.
For the runners only surely.
> ...of offering a Polartec Alpha insulated jacket with the lining removed?
I was under the expression that Alpha had always been offered sans lining (and it is not really a fleece). At least all the alpha-apparel I have, have not had a lining (Marmot something, like 5 or so years ago... and now a Lowe Alpine and OR jackets).
> It`s difficult to heat up Polartec Alpha when only 45g/m weight.
> For the runners only surely.
I guess you haven't really used one...
The two jackets I have are more than adequate for -15 to -20 deg C ice climbs fests with a thin wool under layer (and if needed water & wind repellent top layer). Sure a belay jacket is handy at those temps... but that's what everyone has... warmer temps (think around -5 deg C), the alpha is enough.
> Did you know Polartec Alpha was developed for Special Operations Forces?
Yep. I was never quite sure how all that body armour and webbing full of ammo didn't squash it. When it first came out about five years ago that seemed to be the big selling point! Can't say I was particularly convinced. I reviewed Marmot's first alpha jacket and it was sweaty and not very well cut as I remember it. http://lightfromthenorth.blogspot.com/2014/02/marmot-isotherm-hoodypolartec-alpha.html
On price, well some people are prepared to pay that. If you want something similar but a bit cheaper Rab's version is 50 quid less.
Definitely the first season it came out everything was lined, it was very much sold a super breathable synthetic insulation - but because it was knitted they could have super breathable liners (Marmot used something that had lots of holes in it, that seemed quite sensible). It might have been Rab or Montane who first sold a jacket with no lining and that seemed to work so have caught on with UK companies at least.
Maybe... can't remember and as I don't have the Marmot Isotherm pullover anymore, can't really say.
Any concerns of durability of alpha direct from washing, use under a pack etc? compared to Rab VR lite or Marmot driclime with there micro pile that doesn't seem anywhere near as fragile.