Does anybody make a Cagoule anymore?

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 johnl 26 Apr 2022

You know the waterproofs that were long enough to stop you getting a wet arse and thighs without having to wear waterproof trousers. Like we used to have in the 70s.

 jimtitt 26 Apr 2022
In reply to johnl:

Of course, nowadays they are called smocks (presumably a Brexit effect).

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In reply to jimtitt:

I suppose we could still use anorak, being a Greenlandic word... Anyway, Wiki says cagoule is a British English term...

In the days of UKC picnics, I dug out my old Peter Storm cagoule, removed the remnants of the failed PU coating, gave it a Nikwax treatment, and wore it to a picnic. It still worked well as a lightish weight windproof.

 jimtitt 26 Apr 2022
In reply to captain paranoia:

Well English from the French from the Latin word for a hood or cowl. Still foriegn!

 bigbobbyking 26 Apr 2022
In reply to johnl:

This from Alpkit is maybe along the lines you're thinking: https://alpkit.com/products/fortitude-2021-mens 
It's sold out, and not as long as the ones I used to wear at school that seemed to come down almost to your knees (although maybe I was just wearing a ridiculous size?) At least it covers your bum.

 CantClimbTom 26 Apr 2022
In reply to johnl:

The orange colour has to be that specific faded-orange shade, it either has to rustle extra loudly as you move, or be of the leaky variety --  otherwise it's not a real cagoule

Back in the day... I remember them being longer down the leg, but that might be because I was wearing a hand me down that was still a size too big

In reply to Andy Manthorpe:

> PU Nylon £19 !

Even better: neoprene nylon. Completely unbreathable...

 ScraggyGoat 26 Apr 2022
In reply to johnl:

Haglofs briefly did a longer hemmed goretex for those reasons as part of their LIMM series. It was a jacket rather than a smock. Haven’t looked if they still do.

A mate had Cioch make exactly that for him but in the regulation navy rather than the faded orange.

 jimtitt 26 Apr 2022
In reply to CantClimbTom:

> The orange colour has to be that specific faded-orange shade, it either has to rustle extra loudly as you move, or be of the leaky variety --  otherwise it's not a real cagoule

> Back in the day... I remember them being longer down the leg, but that might be because I was wearing a hand me down that was still a size too big

Nah, proper cags (saying cagoule was pretentious) had a drawstring which held the rest around your waist so you could walk and only your lower thighs and knees got wet. Eating ones tin of pilchards in tomato sauce one furled it down, to sleep one pulled the extension out of ones rucksack and squirmed in.

Nowadays I'd go to a hotel!

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OP johnl 26 Apr 2022
In reply to Andy Manthorpe:

Now that's getting closer, if only they did it in green, grey, blue - I want to blend in to the background.

 Toerag 26 Apr 2022
In reply to johnl:

Well, Guy Cotten do ones for fishermen that are indestructible.  I believe they do breathable ones nowadays too.  Snowsled did do Ventile ones, but have ceased trading I believe.  I'd look to European manufacturers for something lightweight I think - I bet there's a Swedish / Norwegian / German manufacturer of long walking smocks. The alternative is a poncho with button-up sides and these are definitely available on Globetrotter.de

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In reply to johnl:

https://www.peterstorm.com/078200/078200-packable-cagoule

Hood even accommodates a man bun...

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 Andy Hardy 26 Apr 2022
In reply to johnl:

https://www.weatherwisewear.co.uk/ventile

These are in Dumfries and might have something to suit.

 Sealwife 26 Apr 2022
In reply to johnl:

https://hilltrek.co.uk/clothing/smocks/

Not nylon but a good selection of longer length smocks and jackets

 EdS 26 Apr 2022
In reply to johnl:

Delamere or similar available for most farming suppliers - as favoured by many upland farmers and gamekeepers, certainly in the Dales

 norrisdan71 26 Apr 2022
In reply to Sealwife:

> Not nylon but a good selection of longer length smocks and jackets

I have a liathatch smock for winter trips and very good it is too. They did me a bespoke size, longer length to keep the wind off my arse. Highly recommended, warm, waterproof and tough.


 

 Ridge 26 Apr 2022
In reply to johnl:

> Now that's getting closer, if only they did it in green, grey, blue - I want to blend in to the background.

Almost meets your needs
 

https://www.lomo.co.uk/acatalog/Roddy-Storm-Cag.html#SID=10

 Solaris 26 Apr 2022
In reply to johnl:

Hilleberg do something that nearly meets the heights of 70s fashion: https://hilleberg.com/eng/shelters/bivanorak/

In reply to johnl:

> You know the waterproofs that were long enough to stop you getting a wet arse and thighs without having to wear waterproof trousers. Like we used to have in the 70s.

I bought one a couple of years ago (Patagonia but on sale) as my 'general use coat' you'll find them in most outdoor shops but probably more in the cheaper outlets.

 swalk 27 Apr 2022
In reply to johnl:

Bring back the poncho - multi purpose, cheap, vented, comfortable, protects your pack. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Poncho-Raincoat-Waterproof-Fishing-Festivals/dp/B0...

 wercat 27 Apr 2022
In reply to swalk:

preferably that you can press-stud together with another 1 or 2 to make a useful bivvy shelter

OP johnl 27 Apr 2022
In reply to johnl:

Thanks for all the suggestions guys. To be honest nothing really comes close, the Guy Cotton ones have the right designs but in what is basically PVC. Most of the others I've looked at are either too short or are ponchos. I'll keep searching.

 Toerag 27 Apr 2022
In reply to johnl:

Don't discount the PVC - fishermen work up a sweat but don't complain about the lack of breathability. Yes, they're bulky and heavy and to discount them for that reason is valid, but the breathability thing isn't the problem people make it out to be.  You could also see if Grundens do something, they make fishing waterproofs.

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 Siward 27 Apr 2022
In reply to johnl:

Not a cagoule in the classic Peter storm sense but the Enduring Berghaus Lightning jacket is long, although hard to see any new ones still being sold, I'm sure they were until recently.... 

 Tom Valentine 27 Apr 2022
In reply to johnl:

Peter Storm parka  about £30 definitely covers your arse but unfortunately they seem to have a design flaw in the shoulder area where they are much too tight. I saw this in a review before I sent off for mine hoping I'd get a good one but it suffers from the same sizing problem.

Ok for just standing around in, though........   

 BigBrother 27 Apr 2022
In reply to johnl:

Brenig do a neoprene non breathable on or a more expensive breathable longer jacket

http://brenig.co.uk/index.php?id_product=15&controller=product&id_l...

http://brenig.co.uk/index.php?id_product=48&controller=product&id_l...

Some of the 'country' sports companies will do longer length jackets although maybe not 70s cagoule length.

 Fatal 27 Apr 2022
In reply to johnl:

Called 'cagoule de bivouac' in French ; Pierre Allain designed and sold a model: 350g (coated silk), which could also be combined with foot bag (pied d'éléphant) from the same material as part of a complete bivy kit : see for example this historical perspective

https://anneesdeguerre.blogspot.com/2013/11/lequipement-de-lalpiniste-1939-...

Available !

A Chouinard cagoule from the 70's for a modest $480 :   

https://westerngiftsshop.com/products/1970s-chouinard-kangaroo-pocket-hoode...

Edit : from Camp, a 'cagoule' poncho... not exactly the mountain cagoule from back in the day (a bit more roomy), but reasonably close. 500g though. Also, this thing has a full-lengh zip.

https://www.natureetdecouvertes.com/outdoor/camping-bivouac/vetements-de-ra...

(the Camp website is unavailable at the moment... found this.)

Vincent

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 Neil Williams 27 Apr 2022
In reply to johnl:

Being tall and long in the body (and preferring quick dry nylon shorts over trousers and waterproof bottoms) I find the currently trendy short ones a bit useless, and have found that Berghaus and Paramo do a very limited range of longer jackets with waist drawcords, but there aren't many about now.  Might be worth a look on eBay etc for the likes of an old style Mera Peak.

 rgold 28 Apr 2022
In reply to johnl:

From across the pond, https://sierradesigns.com/cagoule/. Pretty much the same thing as the classic cagoules.

In reply to BigBrother:

Brenig have shut down unfortunately. I wanted to buy one of their Working Smocks and contacted the owner who told me he'd moved to Spain and it was doubtful whether they'd start selling gear again.

OP johnl 28 Apr 2022
In reply to BigBrother:

The first one - that's the one! Brilliant thanks.


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