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'no wheeled access' - seen on bridleway

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Is such a restriction possible or landowner taking the p*ss on what is clearly marked on OS maps as a bridleway?

Path in question was a tarmac road that is effectively the driveway of a (big) house.

Post edited at 12:59
 Sam Beaton 01 Oct 2020
In reply to featuresforfeet:

The landowner is *probably* taking the pi$$. Report it to your local PROW Officer

In reply to Sam Beaton:

Thanks - done!

 trouserburp 01 Oct 2020
In reply to featuresforfeet:

Does not seem very fair to wheelchair users! 

 wintertree 01 Oct 2020
In reply to featuresforfeet:

In England, there is a legal right to cycle on a bridleway [1] but as I understand it no legal obligation on the landowner to maintain the route in a "cycle friendly" condition.  

In England, posting misleading signs on a PROW is an offence that the local council can take enforcement action against [2].

That sign as described sounds outright misleading and therefore an offence.  Beware however that PROWs shown on OS maps can sometimes be shown as the wrong classification or even shown one where there is no PROW.  I would recommend checking your local authority's "definitive public rights of way map" before contacting the landowner; if you contact the council directly they will of course check this as part of their process. 

[1] - https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/41/crossheading/public-rights-of-way/enacted

[2] - https://www.gov.uk/guidance/public-rights-of-way-landowner-responsibilities

Post edited at 16:19
In reply to wintertree:

Cool thanks. I checked on the council site and it's definitely a bridleway.

One of the classifications on the form is IntimidatingOrMisleading/Beast which made my day.

 duchessofmalfi 01 Oct 2020
In reply to featuresforfeet:

Take photos of the sign and ones that show it in context with the bridleway and local properties and keep a record

 La benya 01 Oct 2020
In reply to featuresforfeet:

A landowner with a inconvenient historic bridleway on their land, changing or removing signage in the hopes of discouraging and potentially stopping traffic.... unheard of!

 IceKing 01 Oct 2020
In reply to featuresforfeet:

Where is it? There's one that fits that description in North Lancs. 

 jethro kiernan 01 Oct 2020
In reply to featuresforfeet:

Advise any local cycling and MTB clubs, maybe a club ride or two could be arranged 😀

 GrahamD 01 Oct 2020
In reply to featuresforfeet:

Most likely they haven't even thought about bikes when putting up the sign. 

 mrphilipoldham 01 Oct 2020
In reply to featuresforfeet:

If it's definitely a bridleway then you should be allowed to cycle on it.

I used to live on a small holding just off the Coast to Coast path that had a foot path down to it, which was maintained as a tarmacced road by us/the neighbouring farmer for our own access.. used to take much delight in sending 'lost' mountain bikers back up the hill! There were multiple footpaths leaving in all directions but none of them rideable, doing so would have churned them up so permissive access was very much denied.  

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In reply to featuresforfeet:

Have a chat with them. They might just have had problems with fly tipping and appreciate an extra set of eyes around there. 

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 toad 01 Oct 2020
In reply to featuresforfeet:

I suspect it may just be that they don't want vehicular access, and they've worded it poorly

 John2 01 Oct 2020
In reply to featuresforfeet:

This reminds me of an occasion when I was out with my local mountain biking club. Our route took in a bridleway clearly marked on an OS map which crossed a golf course. When we reached it, we were challenged by a golfer who told us we had no right of way. He was seriously outnumbered, but had to back down when one of the cyclists found a bridleway sign thrown into the local shrubbery.

 ChrisJD 01 Oct 2020
In reply to featuresforfeet:

So did you get a new hardtail in the end?

In reply to IceKing:

Deepest darkest Surrey

In reply to ChrisJD:

Tale of woe - basically dithered long enough for everything to sell out. Have a bog standard Trek on order (literally the only sub-3k bike there was left); think I'm going to use that to calibrate what I really want.


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