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Alternatives to Scarpa Phantom guide Boots

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ClimberChes 25 Oct 2016
Evening All,

Ive been looking recently for some new winter boots. The Scrapa phantom guides have taken my fancy but I'm not a fan of the price tag.

Can anyone recommend any similar boots that have the built in gaiter attached.

Any advice welcome.

Ches
 HeMa 25 Oct 2016
In reply to ClimberChes:

Sportiva Batura, Salewa Pro Gaiter, Boreal Stetind and about every other ice climbing boot maker has such models...
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ClimberChes 25 Oct 2016
In reply to HeMa:

The Boreal's are definitely the cheaper on the suggested brands but I really like the look of the Salewa Pro Gaiter.
 HeMa 25 Oct 2016
In reply to ClimberChes:
You can have my 42s for 200€ plus shippin'.
 climber34neil 25 Oct 2016
In reply to ClimberChes:

Mammut nordwand tl are fantastic boots (as are all the others I'm sure) if you can find a pair, I think there may be a newer version now which look the same as the previous version so may be able to find a pair somewhere at a reduced price ( go outdoors had some earlier in the year)
 mrphilipoldham 25 Oct 2016
In reply to climber34neil:

I bought a pair of said boots from Go Outdoors.. £249. Absolute bargain, they've been bloomin' brilliant, if not perfect. I saw the new version in the Mammut store in Chamonix this summer, aside swapping the blue and orange colours over I couldn't see much difference on the face of it bar the £300 extra they wanted!!
 climber34neil 25 Oct 2016
In reply to mrphilipoldham:

I've just seen the new ones on line for £535 , aside from having 2.1 embroidered on the gaiter there doesn't seem to be much difference. I got mine at the end of last winter season so yet to try them in anger but I'm looking forward to it!
 JohnnyW 26 Oct 2016
In reply to ClimberChes:

> The Boreal's are definitely the cheaper on the suggested brands but I really like the look of the Salewa Pro Gaiter.

Got a pair en route from mail order in Germany, bargain price. Looking forward to giving them a go
 HeMa 26 Oct 2016
In reply to climber34neil:

> I've just seen the new ones on line for £535 , aside from having 2.1 embroidered on the gaiter there doesn't seem to be much difference.

Well, the new one is a double boot for starters and also a lot warmer than the old model.
 climber34neil 26 Oct 2016
In reply to HeMa:

Double carbon sole according to the website but interestingly the same -35 temp rating as stated for the older model, although I wouldn't want to put that to the test of course,
ClimberChes 27 Oct 2016
In reply to HeMa:

Thanks but I'm a 40
ClimberChes 27 Oct 2016
In reply to climber34neil:

> Mammut nordwand tl are fantastic boots (as are all the others I'm sure) if you can find a pair, I think there may be a newer version now which look the same as the previous version so may be able to find a pair somewhere at a reduced price ( go outdoors had some earlier in the year)

Thanks, I will definitely have a look at these, I LOVE mammut!!
ClimberChes 27 Oct 2016
In reply to JohnnyW:

You'll have to give me a review once you've used them a few times.

> Got a pair en route from mail order in Germany, bargain price. Looking forward to giving them a go

 climber34neil 27 Oct 2016
In reply to ClimberChes:

I've used them dry tooling , they are nearly as light as my mates fruit boots!
ClimberChes 28 Oct 2016
In reply to climber34neil:

I like the sound of that. Time to start shopping for my Mammut Nordwand TLs
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