In reply to josh12345:
> I quite like look of the MSR tents (I know they are inner pitch first) but I'm not sure how warm they would be with the mesh inner, does anyone have any experience of this?
Yes! I've got the original Hubba - typical north american design, fly sheet lets lots of airflow under it and full mesh inner. In UK conditions drafty and cooler as a result. In truly foul weather little bits of spray can get blown through. In Finland on blustery winter nights I found powder can get blown under the fly and through the mesh - although it wasn't designed for winter. Nevertheless, I still quite like the little fella - seems well made and stronger in winds than you might suspect. Just don't use it like this!:
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