Changing your FB picture to condemn terrorist activities

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 Denni 16 Jan 2016
Hi folks,
hope you are all good this weekend.

Not somethig I did, didn't change my profile to the Eiffel Tower after the Paris attacks because I don't need to show my disgust but if people want to show solidarity that way, then power to the people.

However, my mate does it so I asked him why he didn't change his profile picture to refect the Germans killed in Istanbul recently. His answer was because it didn't happen in Europe..... To me that's a bit of a weak argument and I don't understand the rationale behind it. In fact, why wasn't there a massive outpour of picture changing/rallies/solidarity (unless I've missed it?) etc on the same scale following not only the Istanbul attacks on German tourists but any recent worldwide terrorist atrocities? Will it happen after yesterdays attack in Burkina Faso?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-35332792

I suppose it isn't a massive deal but definitely all a bit of a double standard in my opinion. What do you reckon, is it because it is closer to home?
 goose299 16 Jan 2016
In reply to Denni:
Paris is a lot close to home and attacks in western cities aren't expected.
Whereas the ones in the middle east and other Islamic countries are unfortunatley seen as de riguer now.

FYI, I've never chnaged my fb profile pic for any trend, whether it be Paris for the terrorist attacks or even rainbow when it was to suport homosexuals. I see it as very fad ish
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OP Denni 16 Jan 2016
In reply to goose299:
But we've always had attacks in western cities. RAF, IRA, ETA etc as well as IS and other groups.

Most recently of course the attacks on London, attempted attacks on Glasgow airport, literally 10's of attempted attacks by ETA, Copenhagen shootings, Fraknfurt airport attacks, there are or rather have been a lot of them.

I understand it happens a lot more outside Europe but just don't get the lack of "we did it for France, lets do it for Germany, Denmark, Sweden" etc etc.
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 Dax H 16 Jan 2016
In reply to goose299:

> FYI, I've never chnaged my fb profile pic for any trend, whether it be Paris for the terrorist attacks or even rainbow when it was to suport homosexuals. I see it as very fad ish

I changed mine this year, one of my best mates was killed in a bike accident and just about everyone who knew him changed their picture to one of him, all different pictures but all of him.
I discussed it with his widow and she was very very moved.

 Brass Nipples 16 Jan 2016
In reply to Denni:

Go on then who have our RAF been bombing in the west?

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Andy Gamisou 16 Jan 2016
In reply to Denni:


> However, my mate does it so I asked him why he didn't change his profile picture to refect the Germans killed in Istanbul recently. His answer was because it didn't happen in Europe.....

I think he might be wrong here. I was under the impression that the attack occurred on the European side of the city.

 elsewhere 16 Jan 2016
In reply to Orgsm:

RAF = Red Army Faction in that context
 jimtitt 16 Jan 2016
In reply to Orgsm:

Hmm, how fast history is forgotten. Statistically a German is 3 times more likely to be killed by a German terrorist than one from another country.
 pog100 16 Jan 2016
In reply to jimtitt:

I think it is an age thing ... and quite old too, given that they were at their height in the 70's. I think Baader-Meinhof probably rings more bells as well?
 Brass Nipples 16 Jan 2016
In reply to jimtitt:

> Hmm, how fast history is forgotten. Statistically a German is 3 times more likely to be killed by a German terrorist than one from another country.

Was that terrorism or a war?
OP Denni 16 Jan 2016
In reply to Orgsm:

The West German government called them a terrorist organisation so, terrorism.
OP Denni 16 Jan 2016
In reply to Willi Crater:

Good point. It was carried out in the Sultanahmet district which is on the European side.
 Brass Nipples 16 Jan 2016
In reply to Denni:

> The West German government called them a terrorist organisation so, terrorism.

Well if that's your limited view of things....
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OP Denni 16 Jan 2016
In reply to Orgsm:

Well, at least it is a view unlike your covert offerings.
 PPP 16 Jan 2016
In reply to Denni:

> However, my mate does it so I asked him why he didn't change his profile picture to refect the Germans killed in Istanbul recently.

It's a bandwagon effect as once few idiots (sorry!) change the picture, others are forced as well as not doing it means you don't care about poor people. It's cheap way to draw attention to yourself, not to the victims. It's similar reason to why I do not have my birthday setup on Facebook and don't wish happy birthday to others on Facebook. Sounds cruel, but sharing stuff on Facebook won't stop global warming, wars, hunger in Africa or save someone's life.

The reason Facebook allows you to do that sort of stuff...? My mate quit his job and now makes decent money by using Facebook for marketing purposes. I recall that he spent over 100k USD on Facebook advertising in last couple years.
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 Scarab9 16 Jan 2016
In reply to Denni:

So we seenmm to have a number of questions popping up on this thread.. again.

(For the sake of this argument 'Facebook' is General internet social media)

1/ why, before Facebook existed didnt people complain on Facebook about stuff
--because Facebook didn't exist and it was WAY harder to show the world/anyone-out-of-immediate-site you care

2/ why do people care more about stuf Mr close to home?
It's basic Humannature. we can empathise more with those we better understand.
If I murder your mother do you Care more than if I murder someone who lives a thousand miles away?yes.

3/ if you care about one should you not care about all?
That way leads madness. The world is cruel. An individual can only do so much.

4/ is the news bias?
Yes. Ffs. They're based on sales.

5/ is changing your profile pic worth it?
No. But if large numbers do it may mean something to those involved, and either way it's a sign of solidarity (which is effectively a political a force) and simply Shari g your pain.

Don't judge how others share.it's personal and duck all to do with you

(No I don't change my profile pic to tricolour but I don't judge those who do)
In reply to Denni:

I boycott Nestle and have done for many years, it it double standards that I don't boycott other nasty brands? Or is it merely that you make your little stand because it would be impossible for me to live and work in this modern world if I boycotted everything that deserved boycotting.

Paris is probably that little stand in a world where atrocities are happening daily around the world
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 jimtitt 17 Jan 2016
In reply to Orgsm:

> Was that terrorism or a war?


The UN describes terrorism as "Criminal acts intended or calculated to provoke a state of terror in the general public, a group of persons or particular persons for political purposes....."
Seems to cover the RAF activities perfectly.
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0Unknown0 17 Jan 2016
In reply to Denni:

I think you probably spend too much time pondering over why bored people will do as they do on a site that is basically designed for people with nothing better to do with their time at that moment.
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 yeti 17 Jan 2016
In reply to Dominicandave:

have a like from me : )

 krikoman 17 Jan 2016
In reply to PPP:

> It's a bandwagon effect as once few idiots (sorry!) change the picture, others are forced as well as not doing it means you don't care about poor people. It's cheap way to draw attention to yourself, not to the victims. It's similar reason to why I do not have my birthday setup on Facebook and don't wish happy birthday to others on Facebook. Sounds cruel, but sharing stuff on Facebook won't stop global warming, wars, hunger in Africa or save someone's life.

clearly bollocks, Mary's meals got a massive boost for their cause then this went viral, mostly on Facebook https://www.justgiving.com/neverseconds

Also, how do you know it's not going to stop wars or people dying?
If just ONE person sends some money to a charity because of a Facebook post, then how do you know that little extra money isn't going to feed someone enough to stop them dying.

Beside all of that, you sort of hit the nail on the head, it's about advertising, publicity and spreading the word. Where would Martha have been without Facebook?
 Brass Nipples 17 Jan 2016
In reply to jimtitt:

> The UN describes terrorism as "Criminal acts intended or calculated to provoke a state of terror in the general public, a group of persons or particular persons for political purposes....."

> Seems to cover the RAF activities perfectly.

So you think our UK armed forces are a terrorist organisation, strange view wouldn't you say?
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 Timmd 17 Jan 2016
In reply to PPP:

> It's a bandwagon effect as once few idiots (sorry!) change the picture, others are forced as well as not doing it means you don't care about poor people. It's cheap way to draw attention to yourself, not to the victims. It's similar reason to why I do not have my birthday setup on Facebook and don't wish happy birthday to others on Facebook. Sounds cruel, but sharing stuff on Facebook won't stop global warming, wars, hunger in Africa or save someone's life.

If used in the right way, it 'can' raise awareness about things.
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 Oceanrower 17 Jan 2016
In reply to Orgsm:

> So you think our UK armed forces are a terrorist organisation, strange view wouldn't you say?

Are you being deliberately thick?
 tony 17 Jan 2016
In reply to Orgsm:

> So you think our UK armed forces are a terrorist organisation, strange view wouldn't you say?

You're not really keeping up. No one apart from you is talking about UK armed forces.
 jimtitt 17 Jan 2016
In reply to Orgsm:

> So you think our UK armed forces are a terrorist organisation, strange view wouldn't you say?

My views on the British Armed Forces are my affair. That the Red Army Faction (RAF) was a German terrorist organisation that killed at least 34 people and possibly far more (not including the 26 of their own members) is well known amongst educated people.
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Removed User 19 Jan 2016
In reply to Denni:

> all a bit of a double standard in my opinion

It also raises the question of how long a period to leave before changing back (if at all).
 Flinticus 19 Jan 2016
In reply to krikoman:


> Also, how do you know it's not going to stop wars...?

Whatever else about the rest of your post, this bit had me speechless.
 elsewhere 19 Jan 2016
I thought the RAF was long gone...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35351477


 jimtitt 19 Jan 2016
In reply to elsewhere:

On June 6th 2015 three persons attacked a security van, firing at the vehicle parked in a supermarket carpark. DNA traces from two escape cars belong to three mambers of the RAF who attacked a security van in 1999 and are connected with another similar attack in Mackensdorf where two cars and automatic weapons were also used.
News report from NDR this Monday.
We don´t just have the RAF, there´s plenty more people around. In Munich we are currently in the second year of trial of the 5 NSU (not the moped manufacturers nor the national students union, the National Socialist Union) terrorists who killed at least 10 people.

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