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 Keiran.A 31 Oct 2015
aspirant winter warrior. i currently do most of my mountaineering in north wales so I'm wanting to get a winter climbing guide for that area.

am i correct in thinking the ground up guide is more in-depth or does the Cicerone have the same routes and then some.

links below.k

https://www.thebmc.co.uk/north-wales-winter-climbing-guide-now-in-stock

http://www.cicerone.co.uk/product/detail.cfm/book/1/title/welsh-winter-clim...
 jezb1 31 Oct 2015
In reply to Keiran.A:
The Cicerone one is more old skool and not very up to date, but covers a wider range of crags from memory.

The Ground up one is much more up to date and more modern in style, this is what I'd get (and have!).
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In reply to Keiran.A:

Hi Keiran

There is also a little 'best of' guide to the main winter crags in the back of the Rockfax North Wales Mountain Classics guide

http://www.rockfax.com/climbing-guides/books/north-wales-classics-2010/

Alan
 rockcatch 31 Oct 2015
In reply to Keiran.A:

I have both books. The Ground Up guide does not seem to include all of the easier routes that are in the Cicerone guide, for example the easy snow gullies on Y Garn. Ground Up does, however, include a lot of th harder new mixed routes. It probably depends what you want to do which book is best.
 Simon Caldwell 31 Oct 2015
In reply to Keiran.A:

The Cicerone guide covers more areas and routes, but it can sometimes be hard to work out where things are.
The Ground Up guide makes it easier to find things, and is good for the ego with its upgrades, but misses a lot out.

You need to buy both, and then realise that Welsh Winter conditions are fickle enough that you can end up going the whole season without using either of them.
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