NEW REVIEW: Leaf Harness from Edelrid

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 UKC Gear 31 Jul 2015
Sea, sunshine and perfect sandstone - Porth-Clais, Pembroke., 3 kbA new slimline and lightweight fixed leg loop harness from Edelrid, but is it too specialist for a do everything British cragging harness?

Toby Archer finds out!

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 aldo56 31 Jul 2015
In reply to UKC Gear:

This is quite an interesting read regarding the rear gear loop:

http://andy-kirkpatrick.com/cragmanship/view/harness_real_estate_the_rear_g...
 TobyA 31 Jul 2015
In reply to UKC Gear:

Arghh - typo I missed! "it does though have two ice clipper slots on it suggesting the designers were indeed thinking about climbs needing 10 or 12 quickdraws" should read "it does though have two ice clipper slots on it suggesting the designers were indeed thinking about climbs needing MORE THAN 10 or 12 quickdraws". Sorry!
 TobyA 31 Jul 2015
In reply to aldo56:

I read that recently but I think actually 4 loop harnesses that have only a little tab at the back (which Edelrid amongst other seem to do) make it more likely people will try and wedge a krab in there to hold something than with five loop harnesses, even if that back loop is a very minimalist one (eg: http://www.ukclimbing.com/gear/review.php?id=5228 ). Those tabs on the Edelrid ones are small and hold a krab tightly in just the place Andy worries about, but I'm not sure what else the tab is designed for? I've never got people hanging their chalk bags by a krab from the harness anyway, totally the wrong place for me and I want to be able to move it from side to side, so just use a belt or prussik loop for that.

I see Andy's worry of things ramming into your spine if you fall, although I'm not certain whether a fifth rack really increases that risk greatly. I did break a rib (or ribs?) (for a second time this summer!) when krabs holding cams on an over the shoulder sling I was using as bandolier jammed into my ribs as I was grunting over a small overhang. Having now broken ribs twice since May, I can really recommend NOT breaking ribs to everyone, and as a krab was the instrument the second time, I do sympathise with Andy's point - where your gear is held on your body in relation to your bones is worth considering, something I wouldn't really have thought about before.
 Morgan Woods 01 Aug 2015
In reply to UKC Gear:

Not sure why people insist on fitting their entire trad racks on their harness's gear loops......that's where bandoliers come in handy.
 girlymonkey 01 Aug 2015
In reply to Morgan Woods:

I think different body shapes suit different things. I am tiny, so by the time I even put slings round my body, let alone any gear, I feel like I am really cluttered up and can barely move. I can't have much more than 30cm between the top of my harness and my shoulders (maybe a fraction more, I've not measured it), so if you add in a bandolier then I am just one big mass of metal work! Spread round my harness is far less hassle.
 john arran 01 Aug 2015
In reply to Morgan Woods:

Have you ever tried climbing a roof or even a very overhanging wall with your gear on a bandolier? Maybe ok if you want to combine your climbing with a bit of yoga as you try to get at it behind your back but for most people it's a right PITA. It also raises your centre of gravity, making it harder to keep more weight on your feet on steep ground.

Not for me I'm afraid.

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