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Looking at the weather I reckon the northern corries could be in some time in the next two weeks.

This thread is for conditions speculation, no bullshit about Rowan berries and your mum's lumbago playing up.

In reply to Roberttaylor:
Well I personally I think its gonna be bostin! Had a very light frost on the car roof this morning, the first I've ever known here in Blackpool during October. If its the same for the next few days I'm off to my crag X at the weekend, just a short walk from Hayfield.

In reply to wilkie14c:

You're too late, I'm afraid; your so-called Crag X has already been hacked to bits.

In reply to Clauso:

Barstewards! beaten every time

In reply to Roberttaylor:

Hmm... unlikely looking at the long range forecasts. Anways it's been very warm and wet here in the Gorms. Even
when it does come it'll take a while for all the loose shite to freeze into place.

Looking ahead there are no strong signs of any sustained cold/wintry weather (in fact mid November looks like the air masses are being drawn in from the Azores). Still one thing is for sure winter will come at some point and at some point it will be cold and at some point we'll get winter climbing. Computer weather models aside.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/topkarten/fsavneur.html

In reply to george mc:

You didn't mention the entrails George!

(Or did you get that synopsis off the entrails, and just pasted the Wettercentrale link to give it some scientific backing!?

In reply to JohnnyW:



Busted!

In reply to george mc:

...at which point you'll obviously be heading for Kinder Downfall......

Hope you're well mate,
Best regards,
ANdy

In reply to Roberttaylor:

Trying to hold down a decent job, be a good dad/husband and being located in the west midlands means I 've had a disastrous last couple of winter seasons. At one stage last year I did a 966 round trip up to Lochnagar as it was the only venue with a hint of climbable conditions and guess what........the weather turned sour and I didn't get to climb anything.
As a result of my frustrations I've tried to cover my bases this year by booking the last week of January in the alps............................you can guarantee that this means the UK will have the best winter conditions for decades!!!
(Hopefully the alps will give some reliable conditions)

In reply to smuffy: +1 mate im futched if im spending most of my winter watching the news and weather, so ive booked for the alps as well, plus looking at either italy or norway just to make up for last year

In reply to Roberttaylor:

I dont know what forecasts you have seen but the BBC/met-office are fairly confident that this very mild autumn will continue.

at this time of year, at altitude in the highlands you are guarenteed to get some snow comming and going, but i think the chances of getting propper winter conditions building in the next 2 weeks are pretty close to zero

In reply to Webster:

Dunno, its been bleddy cold in Edinburgh. But maybe that's just me moving back from sunny Los Angeles. =D

In reply to Roberttaylor:

For what it's worth, Piers Corbyn, whose firm Weather Action is sometimes quite successful, is predicting a mild November followed by a much colder December - February period, with substantial snowfall and several big freezes. We shall see. I spoke to him yesterday, mainly because I have often heard him claiming credit after the event for getting a long range forecast right, but have never managed to pin him down to making a statement about the future. Anyway, now I have.

In reply to Roberttaylor:

I think conditions are impossible to predict so far in advance with any degree of certainty. I'm not a weather forecaster but I work in computer modelling of complicated systems. All you can say with confidence is that the winter will contain the following:

rain
fog
snow
slush
wind
cold
warm

at some point.

In reply to Roberttaylor:

I've been up in Lochnagar around this time the last couple of years and it has been miraculously wintry both times (3 times makes a pattern right?) Has anyone been up at all this week? Am I hoping against hope by bringing my axes?

In reply to Webster:
, but i think the chances of getting propper winter conditions building in the next 2 weeks are pretty close to zero

or possibly Point Five

In reply to John Workman:


I see what you did there! =D

Its nice and wintery in the Italian Alps. Maybe we should all move there for a couple months.

In reply to Roberttaylor:

It's Soctland, it will be raining and if it's not, it will be soon.

In reply to Red Rover:










In the same day!

In reply to SkylarLobdell:

I'll be up there this weekend, I hope its not wintery because I ain't bringing no axes.

In reply to Roberttaylor:

Raining at 900m yesterday in the Northern Corries - cool with occasional sleety showers. Ground sopping wet though so will take a while for anything to firm up. My money is on 'proper' winter climbing in first part of December to mid December.

What i would say though is I'd be really careful climbing any mixed stuff until things are frozen/pasted together. Given successive cold winters and the recent wet late autumn there are a lot of loose blocks/rubble around on north facing crags.

Still wearing shorts here on the slopes of Ben Chonzie (I kid you not), maybe a return to trousers by mid week.

Infact cancel my last, there's snow just up the hill now lol

In reply to David Rose:


It sounds like he's predicting "Winter". In any case, Corbyn is a quack - but kudos to him for at least putting his money where his mouth is.

Caught in several blizzards up Ben More Crianlarich yesterday. From the webcams a lot of tops are looking very white today and probably to continue throughout the week.

In reply to Roberttaylor:

Looking promising, according to this:

http://www.ukweatherforecast.co.uk/uk-winter-201415-weather-forecast-predic...

In reply to Clauso:

Snow on them here hills!
http://www.winterhighland.info/cams/glencoe/

In reply to Roberttaylor:

At least two credible winter activists are considering a punt later this week - I know this as they (independently) approached me, but I am unavailable. They both have the nous to pick appropriate routes (or walk away).

In reply to Roberttaylor:

Well, I got out today in Sneachda and managed a climb. Speculation now futile, /thread.

In reply to Roberttaylor:

i was out today as well did hoaremaster

In reply to Roberttaylor:
Kinder downfall now done.

In reply to Roberttaylor:

Went for a little walk tonight and the Northern Corries looked pretty melty, not surprising given the temps the last couple of days.